Pretend this is my cockpit space and this is Eva's.

So I sit here and when I'm looking behind I'm actually turning too far so then I accidentally

push into Eva's when I don't even notice. But then one part of the day is my tummy and

then the second part of the day, Zari told me, no, so she sits on a chair.

I accidentally need to look like a little bit less to look like this quadrant and then

I accidentally shove into Eva's.

Oh my goodness. I had a good chat with chat JPD about healthcare matters because he asked

me how was Amanda doing after we went to the hospital and caught her.

And I said she's fine. And I talked to Ben Hart in the driving follow-up and suggested

questions for the GP. And I said the GP's not interested and it's like really confusing

because here it's so much strengthened up where actually, you know, surely life expectants

here must be a lot higher. And interestingly it's not because Amanda's got one of the

highest life expectants in Europe.

It's not, yeah.

Really surprisingly.

But it was explained to me that she's not going to be able to do it.

Ben, life expectancy rarely actually has anything to do with the quality of healthcare.

Well, why are you eating now?

I didn't.

Because lifestyle matters so much more.

She's had loads already.

Do I have it?

Okay.

I'm sorry, but I don't want this thing to be.

It's not a straightforward thing to say.

Life expectancy is nearly the same there as it is here.

And here it's extremely distorted between regions.

And

there's a lot, a lot, a lot higher.

It's very hard to eat.

I eat a chow.

There's a lot higher incidence of people having their pulmonary diseases, blood pressure,

heart problems and all that, but mainly because of smoking.

But of like cancer and certain things.

It's a lot less.

And it's so much lower.

It has to do with lifestyle, that despite a high percentage of people who smoke, almost

non-existent healthcare, extremely dangerous road, but the life expectancy is far better

than it is in most countries, than most northern European countries.

No, it's not.

It's weird.

But you think there's a lot of really old people as well.

Well, they are also, they are also, well, there is, but that's because the young people

are leaving.

No.

That's not what the difference is.

No, the statistics of life expectancy is one thing, but healthy life expectancy is

far higher here.

The healthy life expectancy here is the age you reach without a serious health problem.

Here it's 64 or 66 or something like that.

Most people get 66 without needing any sort of serious treatment or having a cancer or

a heart problem or needing surgery or something like that.

There's like a list of things that define as like healthy life and all that, you know.

But as in Macedonia, that's like 40-something, because there's so many people, the average

is so low, but so many people get unwell in the final year, and they live a long time

because of the sun and olive oil and salad, you know, and the whatever, you know, like

the southern European lifestyle.

Yeah.

A lot of processed food and so many things.

But there's going to be a lot more high-portioning than that on average because of it, you know.

And that's where healthcare thing matters can shine too, but not necessarily access

to the hospital, but preventative healthcare, so here we are without that, you know.

We don't do that, come on now.

Like making cigarettes so expensive, there's an absolutely clear correlation that that

improves health expectancy.

I'm rolling.