Well, you can't even buy the new one yet.

That's why it's funny.

What's 17 is not new, you say?

It was new 11 months ago.

Even there ago I'm 18.

Maybe it's a bit early because they're going to be much cheaper one day.

But what big difference from this one was 1000, isn't it?

Yeah.

For 1000, yeah

Difference

Pro Max.

It's less memory, but I think it doesn't really matter because you don't store the things on the phone for me it's 1175.

you know what you don't want to refurbish and I wouldn't as well but if I buy direct from Apple it's sometimes even better.