So you're studying?

So he's a very good case study, yeah.

I don't know.

Ollie, did you phone me?

No.

I think the first project anyway, I did the things for elders because of my grandmom and my mom.

Yeah.

So yeah.

That's a.

I use family for case today.

It's okay.

Very.

good.

Very good.

Very interesting.

But then after all, you don't work in product design.

Because it's very difficult for me to get a design job, a researcher in here.

Because I tried, but you know 70% of the designer, a special industrial designer, was developed by UK for the whole year.

Yeah, I know.

And they're very competitive in here.

They don't make it, but they design it and the engineering is here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They didn't give the chance too much to people from Asia.

And then when I was a great,