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Status: completed · Language: en · Source: Office Audio · Captured: 2026-09-04 13:13:58 · Sorry, I won't get carried by about you, just don't know. Yeah, because H has more to say. Just hang on a minute, right?

Unknown

Sorry, I won't get carried by about you, just don't know.

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Unknown

Yeah, because H has more to say.

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Unknown

Just hang on a minute, right?

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Unknown

Let's just let's just talk about parrots of sex, right?

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Unknown

We're just letting it pass.

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Unknown

We're just letting it happen.

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Unknown

And we're not even deeper.

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Unknown

You know when you've got a dog in that, you always think, oh, I wish you could talk to me.

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Unknown

Hang on a minute.

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Unknown

Get a parrot?

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Unknown

Like, what do you need?

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Unknown

Parrots talk?

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Unknown

Right.

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Unknown

I'm going to stop H there, I think.

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Unknown

Any parrot lovers in the house?

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Unknown

I think we should get a parrot to talk to, H.

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Unknown

Don't you think that'll blow his massive head?

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Unknown

Yes.

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Unknown

Oh my gosh.

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Unknown

I just, I love a parrot too.

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Unknown

I totally relate to this.

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Unknown

It is crazy that parrots are the only animal that we just

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Unknown

Accept that can just talk.

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Unknown

Technically they are just repeating what they hear after you, but it's incredible that they can do that.

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Unknown

I think they're I think they're very clever.

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Unknown

birds.

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Unknown

Yeah, they are.

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Unknown

You can ring,

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Mother.

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Suzana

Ring, mother.

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Suzana

You can ring.

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Unknown

She likes to pick and choose.

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Unknown

New purses, different shoes.

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New purchase, different dude.

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Unknown

Who's next in a kissing boom.

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Unknown

She a lot, fit and rude.

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Got a box, stick and move.

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Unknown

I like to play Radio Two, please.

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Unknown

Playing BBC Radio two.

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Unknown

Yes, but they're not.

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Unknown

So we're not going to use water resources.

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Unknown

That's simply not true.

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Unknown

We're harvesting rainwater, the modern designs of data centers.

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Unknown

And it has been the case for about ten years in, in, in, in, in the UK and New York, we use closed loop systems, we do not use water, we do not take water from residential communities.

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Unknown

It is simply not true.

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Unknown

Is it true in the US?

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Unknown

Yes, it is, I'm afraid.

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Unknown

But we live in a very, very different regulatory environment.

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Unknown

The idea that AI is going to consume everything is simply, again, not true.

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There are going to be very, very few AI data centers in the UK, if any.

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And the UK is certainly, and I support the governments, the UK is certainly, not an attractive place to build data centers.

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And yet we absolutely need them to to underpin our additional economies and our economic growth.

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Unknown

So how much

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Unknown

Why is there such misconception about the water being used?

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Because I mean, we hear, I hear all the time that these things use loads of water,

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Unknown

Again, it's facts from the US where this is true.

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Unknown

In the US, they use a vibratory cooler, which is a cheap and efficient way of cooling.

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Unknown

But unfortunately, it must be superwater.

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Unknown

water.

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Unknown

We simply haven't done that in the UK and northern Europe, but for possibly, possibly two decades, not even one.

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Unknown

And part of the reason for that is we're ready to certainly be lower, because of more bacteria, where people just come to them to mess with standard water.

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Unknown

We've always had a great concern over water.

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Unknown

And again, using water is not necessarily a problem.

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Unknown

It's using potable water from, from you know, supplies that do support for industries and revenues.

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Unknown

Donald, we don't do that.

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Unknown

Donald, back to you.

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Unknown

I'm kind of fascinated by this idea that there aren't facts here.

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Unknown

I mean, on water very briefly, you know, there is, for example, we got this information out of the Environment Agency, Equinix, a big US data center firm, has a license to extract 1000,000m of water a day for a data center site in Slide from the local environment.

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Unknown

So where these are built, if they already want to be stressed, they're very significant.

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Unknown

But it's interesting that Mark doesn't talk.

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Unknown

The power demand of these facilities is huge.

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Unknown

There is an endless list.

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Unknown

No, quite.

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Unknown

So Google, for example, is building a couple outside London.

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One of them would use the same electricity demand as around a million homes.

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Unknown

And Google is very keen to push ahead with that.

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It has huge resources to do it.

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It has huge amounts of money to push it through the process.

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Unknown

So this is this is a real issue.

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Unknown

and I'm astonished at this kind of, oh, don't worry, it probably won't happen.

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Unknown

You know, all of these are in the are in the planning system.

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Unknown

There are planning applications for these sites.

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Unknown

Let Mark respond.

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Unknown

Mark.

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Unknown

There are planning applications.

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Unknown

How do you think we'll actually get through?

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Unknown

One of the reasons that the UK is not attractive is because that has a nature of planning.

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Unknown

These things are happening.

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Unknown

Yes, there are planning applications.

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Unknown

Donald, you mentioned the offline connection queue, the request of connection.

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Unknown

Yes, it's huge.

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Unknown

The reason for that is because it's a connection queue system.

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Unknown

The problem is that we don't know what power is available until we make an application.

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So people 14 have a lot of applications.

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And both Oscam and NISA recognise that these applications are spurious.

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Unknown

There are problems that are never going to happen.

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Unknown

But the problem is that without putting the application in, you don't know whether you've even got a chance.

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Unknown

So this isn't selfish at all.

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Unknown

And yes, a piece of the time huge denial.

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Unknown

The reality is, that is simply not going to happen.

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Unknown

It's not a problem.

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Unknown

It's not.

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Unknown

So, you know, there's so many fraud arguments, and this is a big frustration for those of us in the industry.

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Unknown

We fill it up water, we try and count some water, fine.

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Unknown

Do these systems use power?

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Unknown

Yes, they do, but so do other industrial processors.

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Unknown

They've sent us to use around 2% of power generated in the UK.

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Unknown

That's a really small amount.

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Unknown

Very brief response from Udald, just to those points that we're overstating the concerns broadly.

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Unknown

I don't really know what to say in response to that, because these these things are being built.

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Unknown

You know, Microsoft has nearly finished one in Acton.

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Unknown

that is very large scale.

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Unknown

Google just opened one last year.

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Unknown

They've got more in the planning system. okay, you can say not all of them will be built.

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Unknown

Even a small fraction of these will come with a very significant paradigm. okay.

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Unknown

And that is something that the government gives you on top of, they need to be gotten positions in place to ensure we don't have the market costs for these.

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Unknown

So give me a number, we've been using UK based bystanders, or just, hey, tell me what

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Unknown

I'm going to give you.

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Unknown

I'm going to give you some Shaka Kart.

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Unknown

Mark Afton, thank you very much, Dole Campbell, thank you to you.

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Unknown

And as always, it's over tour list.

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Unknown

There's 88291 Shaka Kart.

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Unknown

We're gonna change the yummys and we did tonight. 99.

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Suzana

Run away I'm a minute til I couldn't have had I'm waiting for you to come over I am the kind of, the kind of highlight Creature, of the night, creature of the night, good sign of highlight, for a shining bright, for a shining bright light, No, no fajnie.

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Suzana

I've been waiting to get laid on it longer, I know the string that I ain't lighter Creature of the night, creature of the light, Oh, shining black, oh, shining black, ก็ ต้อง เคย ก็ ต้อง เคย.

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Suzana

ولا Reuben's in Wandsworth

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Unknown

I was involved in data center builds across Europe in the early 2000.

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Unknown

They've only got bigger, more power hungry and more ecologically demanding.

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Unknown

Bobby's in Potter's Bar.

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There's a data centre being built in Potter's Bar.

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Unknown

It's bigger than Wembley Stadium and on Greenbelt Land.

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Unknown

Hammer's in Wedding.

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I'm worried about plans to build a data centre between Wedding and Wokingham.

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Unknown

The southeast of England has been designated an AI growth zone, but this is the most water stressed part of the UK, so how does that make sense?

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