I'll get back to you with how many cans I've got currently, empty, what the price of the new crop is for both cans and pouches.

It's the A10 cans, isn't it? It's the three kg ones.

And then if you then come back and say, OK, that's great.

Only on the packaging.

Don't worry about that. Just start with that.

And we have to prepare ourselves.

And for those reusing one, is it going to be any cost effective?

Or if you could reuse them?

If we use them, it will stop us from having a cost rather than being cheaper, won't it?

Because at the moment we've paid for them and they're sat in the warehouse.

So I'll just let you know how many there are.

As I say, there might not be any.

They might turn around and say, I have no idea.

No, no.

Not the tin one.

I mean, the double.