Pouches are cheaper because of the cost of the pouch versus the cost of the can.

It's also more efficient.

But I don't think we will go with the pouches or anything.

We have a certain customer that...

Yeah, they won't recognise it as the same thing,

but I think there's a cheaper alternative alongside it.

And can you have both, like, both and in a mixed container?

You can. I mean, the only...

The problem is, is that when you haven't got a lot of volume,

the cost of the cans will be expensive

because half of it's pouches and half of it's cans,

so you're even less...

Plus the cost per unit of the cans.

Unless, like, you have that minimum of cans,

like, four container or three container,

and then...

Some pouches, right.

And the other thing with pouch,

so, because it's like a can, you need to...

Easier to print them off, I mean.

Yeah, like, it doesn't need to be...

With pouches...

Some on something...

No, with pouches, all you're buying,

if you ended up wanting to go down that route,

you end up buying a printed...