And he says the payroll should be with the accountant.

And he has a Pakistani accountant on Abidel Road.

He did his VAT, he did his wages, everything.

He didn't understand how even exactly how does VAT work,

how does wages work and all that.

He just relies on the accountant.

And he said, oh, I want to get him to do it.

And the accountant wants to charge £100 a month for payroll,

things that's not necessary.

And he started to, I don't know, suspicious,

I think it was from his wife, you know,

explaining to me and Sarah, well, no,

there's no need to have the accountant do that.

And then show me, then they're working out, OK.

Everything is clear, exposed,

but he doesn't understand it because he never did it.

And taking all the papers to the accountant with me,

a couple of times,

one time for a couple of hours with his accountant,

his accountant.