uh only about pizza sauce maybe he's bringing that up with you because he sees you as the path to

the guy at silvery sauce direct but he's also doing that with the boxes people come to

show pizza boxes and he's talking can you make like this can you make like that he's got other

clearly he's got other ideas he's just always got too many different

directions looking you know yes yes and i don't think it's entirely bad the intention entirely

but if he sees opportunity for himself at anybody else expense he would take it so yes oh

yes he does yeah definitely yes he said that as well to me and sarah the idea being that

the money comes from the other cash and carries and they'll be partners with it