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Status: completed · Language: en · Source: Unknown source · Captured: 2026-08-17 15:17:38 · Hello? Hi, sorry. I was just on the other line. Sorry. How are you? I'm alright. I spoke to you. Sorry? I spoke to your
Hello? Hi, sorry.
2026-08-17 15:17:39 - 2026-08-17 15:17:40I was just on the other line.
2026-08-17 15:17:41 - 2026-08-17 15:17:42Sorry.
2026-08-17 15:17:43 - 2026-08-17 15:17:43How are you? I'm alright.
2026-08-17 15:17:44 - 2026-08-17 15:17:46I spoke to you.
2026-08-17 15:17:47 - 2026-08-17 15:17:49Sorry?
2026-08-17 15:17:51 - 2026-08-17 15:17:51I spoke to your assistant today.
2026-08-17 15:17:52 - 2026-08-17 15:17:54Oh, okay, yes, very good.
2026-08-17 15:17:55 - 2026-08-17 15:17:56He told me to call you.
2026-08-17 15:17:57 - 2026-08-17 15:17:59Huh?
2026-08-17 15:17:59 - 2026-08-17 15:18:00He told me to call you. Yeah, is he alright?
2026-08-17 15:18:00 - 2026-08-17 15:18:02He's alright, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:18:03 - 2026-08-17 15:18:04He said you tried to reach me and he said
2026-08-17 15:18:04 - 2026-08-17 15:18:06you were going back, but
2026-08-17 15:18:06 - 2026-08-17 15:18:07he hasn't got
2026-08-17 15:18:07 - 2026-08-17 15:18:09a call today already.
2026-08-17 15:18:09 - 2026-08-17 15:18:11He never gets a call.
2026-08-17 15:18:12 - 2026-08-17 15:18:13Alright.
2026-08-17 15:18:13 - 2026-08-17 15:18:14He can do a lot, you know.
2026-08-17 15:18:16 - 2026-08-17 15:18:17He can do a lot.
2026-08-17 15:18:17 - 2026-08-17 15:18:18Yeah, he can do a lot of things.
2026-08-17 15:18:19 - 2026-08-17 15:18:21He can talk to me about a lot of things.
2026-08-17 15:18:22 - 2026-08-17 15:18:23He can ask me about my calendar,
2026-08-17 15:18:23 - 2026-08-17 15:18:25what things I need to do.
2026-08-17 15:18:26 - 2026-08-17 15:18:28He knows if I'm expecting a call.
2026-08-17 15:18:28 - 2026-08-17 15:18:30And he can phone people for me
2026-08-17 15:18:30 - 2026-08-17 15:18:32if I want to order
2026-08-17 15:18:32 - 2026-08-17 15:18:33lunch.
2026-08-17 15:18:34 - 2026-08-17 15:18:35He phones the pizzeria.
2026-08-17 15:18:35 - 2026-08-17 15:18:37places the order and then he does give me a message it'll be ready in 10 minutes you can
2026-08-17 15:18:38 - 2026-08-17 15:18:43pick it up or the delivery or whatever and the price everything you go to show me yeah
2026-08-17 15:18:43 - 2026-08-17 15:18:49yeah have you got any friend to work for me you can do yeah if you want i can definitely set that
2026-08-17 15:18:49 - 2026-08-17 15:18:58up yeah all right thanks yeah you can speak every language next time try talking to him in turkish
2026-08-17 15:18:58 - 2026-08-17 15:19:04or farsi or something yeah you can do it as well good for me yeah he said when i get to a person
2026-08-17 15:19:04 - 2026-08-17 15:19:14he's continuously in his mind yes it is yeah yeah and i said there's a he said okay then yeah he
2026-08-17 15:19:15 - 2026-08-17 15:19:23said are you coming to tlc i said i may do yeah muhammad is not answering my telephone right
2026-08-17 15:19:23 - 2026-08-17 15:19:32i think he may be
2026-08-17 15:19:32 - 2026-08-17 15:19:34yeah
2026-08-17 15:19:34 - 2026-08-17 15:19:34a bit more like retired you know
2026-08-17 15:19:34 - 2026-08-17 15:19:36I don't know. I've got an appointment tomorrow at 11 o'clock in Leeds.
2026-08-17 15:19:38 - 2026-08-17 15:19:44I spoke to Manon.
2026-08-17 15:19:44 - 2026-08-17 15:19:46I just said, while I was talking, I said, have you spoken to Tomo?
2026-08-17 15:19:48 - 2026-08-17 15:19:53He said, no, what's happening there?
2026-08-17 15:19:54 - 2026-08-17 15:19:55Tomo is a nice lad, you know what I mean? Nice kid.
2026-08-17 15:19:56 - 2026-08-17 15:20:01I made an appointment with him tomorrow to talk to him.
2026-08-17 15:20:02 - 2026-08-17 15:20:10And he said, what's happening with the chiefs?
2026-08-17 15:20:11 - 2026-08-17 15:20:14They're not answering even the telephone.
2026-08-17 15:20:15 - 2026-08-17 15:20:18I don't know about that. I'm not in the office.
2026-08-17 15:20:19 - 2026-08-17 15:20:22But yeah, we have to pay him for the last week's chief as soon as possible.
2026-08-17 15:20:23 - 2026-08-17 15:20:27I'll try to do that before you go there.
2026-08-17 15:20:27 - 2026-08-17 15:20:30Yeah, we'll do that before I go.
2026-08-17 15:20:31 - 2026-08-17 15:20:34I'm going to go to TLC, just see what Tom says.
2026-08-17 15:20:39 - 2026-08-17 15:20:42Find out.
2026-08-17 15:20:43 - 2026-08-17 15:20:44You know, I might have to say, I don't think this is fair.
2026-08-17 15:20:44 - 2026-08-17 15:20:51Well, see first after you had the appointment with Manu.
2026-08-17 15:20:52 - 2026-08-17 15:20:55You know, do that first.
2026-08-17 15:20:55 - 2026-08-17 15:20:57Yeah, I don't think he's spoken to Manu.
2026-08-17 15:20:58 - 2026-08-17 15:21:01No, he hasn't, but he spoke to Navid.
2026-08-17 15:21:01 - 2026-08-17 15:21:03Muhammad, yes.
2026-08-17 15:21:04 - 2026-08-17 15:21:05No, Navid in Delacorte.
2026-08-17 15:21:06 - 2026-08-17 15:21:08Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:21:08 - 2026-08-17 15:21:09Because Manu looks very old, and Navid does all the thinking and decisions.
2026-08-17 15:21:10 - 2026-08-17 15:21:15It's like...
2026-08-17 15:21:15 - 2026-08-17 15:21:16Manu's in Delacorte, he's in class.
2026-08-17 15:21:16 - 2026-08-17 15:21:20He's broke his ribs.
2026-08-17 15:21:21 - 2026-08-17 15:21:22His leg.
2026-08-17 15:21:22 - 2026-08-17 15:21:23A leg? Oh my God.
2026-08-17 15:21:24 - 2026-08-17 15:21:25How?
2026-08-17 15:21:26 - 2026-08-17 15:21:26I don't know.
2026-08-17 15:21:26 - 2026-08-17 15:21:28I don't know, I didn't ask him.
2026-08-17 15:21:28 - 2026-08-17 15:21:30Okay.
2026-08-17 15:21:31 - 2026-08-17 15:21:31Yeah, that was it.
2026-08-17 15:21:34 - 2026-08-17 15:21:35So I'm going to go to TLC.
2026-08-17 15:21:35 - 2026-08-17 15:21:37see what he said yeah because you have to sort this out before the meeting yeah of course yeah
2026-08-17 15:21:38 - 2026-08-17 15:21:45you know not of course you know yeah he just talks too much i know i know
2026-08-17 15:21:45 - 2026-08-17 15:21:52some of it is his style you know you're right but some of it is just the style
2026-08-17 15:21:54 - 2026-08-17 15:21:58he does that then for one hour he talks about concrete then for one hour he talks about pizza
2026-08-17 15:21:58 - 2026-08-17 15:22:04boxes and then for one hour again the sauce comes back but it's too many ideas and no but
2026-08-17 15:22:04 - 2026-08-17 15:22:09this one what he is doing he obviously that he got support from his wife and his plan yeah yeah
2026-08-17 15:22:09 - 2026-08-17 15:22:17but that's not that for for him it's only one of the things in the plan yes you're right you're
2026-08-17 15:22:17 - 2026-08-17 15:22:27right but he's not uh only about pizza sauce maybe he's bringing that up with you because
2026-08-17 15:22:27 - 2026-08-17 15:22:32he sees you as the pastor
2026-08-17 15:22:32 - 2026-08-17 15:22:33the guy is silvery
2026-08-17 15:22:34 - 2026-08-17 15:22:35He's also doing that with the boxes.
2026-08-17 15:22:38 - 2026-08-17 15:22:39People come to show pizza boxes and he's talking,
2026-08-17 15:22:39 - 2026-08-17 15:22:43can you make it like this?
2026-08-17 15:22:43 - 2026-08-17 15:22:44Can you make it like that?
2026-08-17 15:22:44 - 2026-08-17 15:22:45He's got other, clearly he's got other ideas.
2026-08-17 15:22:45 - 2026-08-17 15:22:47He's just always got too many different directions of looking.
2026-08-17 15:22:47 - 2026-08-17 15:22:52That's your intention and everything.
2026-08-17 15:22:52 - 2026-08-17 15:22:55Yes, yes.
2026-08-17 15:22:56 - 2026-08-17 15:22:56And I don't think it's entirely bad intention, entirely.
2026-08-17 15:22:56 - 2026-08-17 15:23:00But if he sees opportunity for himself,
2026-08-17 15:23:00 - 2026-08-17 15:23:03anybody else's expense, he will take it.
2026-08-17 15:23:03 - 2026-08-17 15:23:05Like, yeah, he wants to kick us out of that,
2026-08-17 15:23:05 - 2026-08-17 15:23:08kick us out of the pizza night shows.
2026-08-17 15:23:09 - 2026-08-17 15:23:11Yes, he does, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:23:11 - 2026-08-17 15:23:12He wants to own it.
2026-08-17 15:23:12 - 2026-08-17 15:23:14He said to open a company.
2026-08-17 15:23:14 - 2026-08-17 15:23:17Yes.
2026-08-17 15:23:18 - 2026-08-17 15:23:18Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:23:18 - 2026-08-17 15:23:19He said that as well to me and Sarah,
2026-08-17 15:23:19 - 2026-08-17 15:23:21the idea being that the money comes from the other cash and carries
2026-08-17 15:23:22 - 2026-08-17 15:23:25and they'll be partners with it.
2026-08-17 15:23:26 - 2026-08-17 15:23:28But yeah, he wants to put his name in it,
2026-08-17 15:23:28 - 2026-08-17 15:23:30which doesn't make any sense.
2026-08-17 15:23:30 - 2026-08-17 15:23:31It's completely unfair.
2026-08-17 15:23:31 - 2026-08-17 15:23:32Yeah, but not your name, not TRC name.
2026-08-17 15:23:32 - 2026-08-17 15:23:34No.
2026-08-17 15:23:34 - 2026-08-17 15:23:35Well, one of them, yes, exactly.
2026-08-17 15:23:35 - 2026-08-17 15:23:36Exactly.
2026-08-17 15:23:38 - 2026-08-17 15:23:38Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:23:38 - 2026-08-17 15:23:39He's got that intention, yes.
2026-08-17 15:23:39 - 2026-08-17 15:23:40Yeah, he's got that intention.
2026-08-17 15:23:40 - 2026-08-17 15:23:42That's an evil intention.
2026-08-17 15:23:42 - 2026-08-17 15:23:43That's below the belt.
2026-08-17 15:23:44 - 2026-08-17 15:23:45It is.
2026-08-17 15:23:45 - 2026-08-17 15:23:46It's horrible.
2026-08-17 15:23:46 - 2026-08-17 15:23:46It is.
2026-08-17 15:23:46 - 2026-08-17 15:23:47I hate that.
2026-08-17 15:23:47 - 2026-08-17 15:23:48I know.
2026-08-17 15:23:48 - 2026-08-17 15:23:49I know.
2026-08-17 15:23:49 - 2026-08-17 15:23:50Okay.
2026-08-17 15:23:50 - 2026-08-17 15:23:50I know.
2026-08-17 15:23:51 - 2026-08-17 15:23:52Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:23:52 - 2026-08-17 15:23:52One question that I want to ask you.
2026-08-17 15:23:54 - 2026-08-17 15:23:57A while ago, before he takes his money back.
2026-08-17 15:23:59 - 2026-08-17 15:24:03Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:24:03 - 2026-08-17 15:24:04He said to me, you were taking wages from there, and he didn't know, and you hadn't
2026-08-17 15:24:04 - 2026-08-17 15:24:09told him.
2026-08-17 15:24:09 - 2026-08-17 15:24:10No, he knew, because he had the bank account.
2026-08-17 15:24:10 - 2026-08-17 15:24:13He had the bank account, and he and I were both getting the same thing.
2026-08-17 15:24:14 - 2026-08-17 15:24:17The same thing.
2026-08-17 15:24:18 - 2026-08-17 15:24:19We had clash about, from the beginning, or from early on, he once talked to his Pakistani
2026-08-17 15:24:19 - 2026-08-17 15:24:25accountant in Abu Dhabi Road, and he said the payroll should be with the accountant.
2026-08-17 15:24:25 - 2026-08-17 15:24:31Sorry, I didn't understand.
2026-08-17 15:24:32 - 2026-08-17 15:24:33What about Abu Dhabi Road?
2026-08-17 15:24:34 - 2026-08-17 15:24:35He has a Pakistani accountant.
2026-08-17 15:24:36 - 2026-08-17 15:24:37And the accountant on Abbeydale Road did his VAT, did his wages, everything.
2026-08-17 15:24:38 - 2026-08-17 15:24:42He didn't understand how even exactly how does VAT work, how does wages work.
2026-08-17 15:24:42 - 2026-08-17 15:24:47He just relies on the accountant.
2026-08-17 15:24:48 - 2026-08-17 15:24:50And he said, oh, I want to get him to do it.
2026-08-17 15:24:50 - 2026-08-17 15:24:53And the accountant wants to charge £100 a month for payroll, things that's not necessary.
2026-08-17 15:24:53 - 2026-08-17 15:24:59And he started to, I don't know, suspicious, I think it was from his wife,
2026-08-17 15:25:01 - 2026-08-17 15:25:05you know, explaining to me and Sarah, well, no, there's no need to have the accountant do that.
2026-08-17 15:25:05 - 2026-08-17 15:25:10And then only then they're working out, okay, everything is clear, exposed,
2026-08-17 15:25:10 - 2026-08-17 15:25:15but he doesn't understand it because he never did it.
2026-08-17 15:25:15 - 2026-08-17 15:25:17And taking all the papers to the accountant with me, a couple of times,
2026-08-17 15:25:18 - 2026-08-17 15:25:24one time for a couple of hours with his accountant,
2026-08-17 15:25:24 - 2026-08-17 15:25:27his accountant looked through it all about the VAT and about the payroll,
2026-08-17 15:25:27 - 2026-08-17 15:25:31and he said, no, that's all correct, that's fine.
2026-08-17 15:25:31 - 2026-08-17 15:25:34There's nothing wrong, you can do it yourself because...
2026-08-17 15:25:35 - 2026-08-17 15:25:37Even the accountant didn't want to do it because it's weekly or monthly.
2026-08-17 15:25:38 - 2026-08-17 15:25:41And he always felt like everything has to go to his accountant.
2026-08-17 15:25:41 - 2026-08-17 15:25:47My point is, my question is, you were taking £600, he said, wages.
2026-08-17 15:25:48 - 2026-08-17 15:25:54And he was taking £400 at his request.
2026-08-17 15:25:55 - 2026-08-17 15:25:58He said, leave it like that.
2026-08-17 15:25:59 - 2026-08-17 15:26:00We weren't calling it wages, we were calling it as repayment from the investments that we'd made.
2026-08-17 15:26:00 - 2026-08-17 15:26:06And when I was doing that, my investment was much more than his.
2026-08-17 15:26:08 - 2026-08-17 15:26:14How much did you put in this house?
2026-08-17 15:26:14 - 2026-08-17 15:26:20When did he take all the money?
2026-08-17 15:26:20 - 2026-08-17 15:26:25I don't know, last summer, last autumn?
2026-08-17 15:26:25 - 2026-08-17 15:26:28No, no, finished in January.
2026-08-17 15:26:28 - 2026-08-17 15:26:30Finished in January.
2026-08-17 15:26:30 - 2026-08-17 15:26:31Started in autumn, finished in January.
2026-08-17 15:26:31 - 2026-08-17 15:26:33And he always...
2026-08-17 15:26:35 - 2026-08-17 15:26:37It was made obvious what is going on.
2026-08-17 15:26:38 - 2026-08-17 15:26:40It's because he put in from the beginning about $50,000 to $70,000.
2026-08-17 15:26:40 - 2026-08-17 15:26:45$50,000, $70,000, but then he didn't pay for the shopping from his shop.
2026-08-17 15:26:46 - 2026-08-17 15:26:50It was much more than the money that I was taking.
2026-08-17 15:26:50 - 2026-08-17 15:26:54His shopping was much more.
2026-08-17 15:26:54 - 2026-08-17 15:26:56And I struggled to put money.
2026-08-17 15:26:56 - 2026-08-17 15:26:59I put $30,000, $40,000, $50,000.
2026-08-17 15:26:59 - 2026-08-17 15:27:01Within about four months, I'd overtaken him a lot by how much I put in.
2026-08-17 15:27:01 - 2026-08-17 15:27:06A lot.
2026-08-17 15:27:06 - 2026-08-17 15:27:07And he saw this shop, and then he starts telling me,
2026-08-17 15:27:08 - 2026-08-17 15:27:12I want to buy, we want to buy this one.
2026-08-17 15:27:12 - 2026-08-17 15:27:14I want to buy a container of this, a container of that.
2026-08-17 15:27:14 - 2026-08-17 15:27:16Good ideas, but it needs a lot more money.
2026-08-17 15:27:17 - 2026-08-17 15:27:19And he says to me, can't you borrow against your house?
2026-08-17 15:27:19 - 2026-08-17 15:27:22Can you ask your family to give you more money?
2026-08-17 15:27:22 - 2026-08-17 15:27:24Expecting me to put in more.
2026-08-17 15:27:24 - 2026-08-17 15:27:26And he says, because I'm doing other business as well,
2026-08-17 15:27:26 - 2026-08-17 15:27:29I'm trying to have some other shop and things like that.
2026-08-17 15:27:29 - 2026-08-17 15:27:33And I said, no, I cannot invest the money.
2026-08-17 15:27:33 - 2026-08-17 15:27:37And he said, no, I cannot.
2026-08-17 15:27:37 - 2026-08-17 15:27:37He wants me to raise money from family and from my house,
2026-08-17 15:27:38 - 2026-08-17 15:27:42and then he wants to have half the benefit of it.
2026-08-17 15:27:43 - 2026-08-17 15:27:46So we separated it, paid him over three months,
2026-08-17 15:27:49 - 2026-08-17 15:27:53and he's just since then an employee.
2026-08-17 15:27:54 - 2026-08-17 15:27:56But his job's supposed to be all commercial things,
2026-08-17 15:27:57 - 2026-08-17 15:28:02the customers, suppliers, all those people who come in
2026-08-17 15:28:02 - 2026-08-17 15:28:05and want to talk for ages and things like that.
2026-08-17 15:28:05 - 2026-08-17 15:28:07He doesn't do any of that.
2026-08-17 15:28:08 - 2026-08-17 15:28:09Just always, I want to get a few pallets of this and a few pallets of that,
2026-08-17 15:28:09 - 2026-08-17 15:28:15but you're not buying it, and I can't because I spend all the money.
2026-08-17 15:28:15 - 2026-08-17 15:28:19And when he was getting his repayment,
2026-08-17 15:28:20 - 2026-08-17 15:28:23from when we agreed, he was not crazy, very, very,
2026-08-17 15:28:24 - 2026-08-17 15:28:28oh, when am I going to have that?
2026-08-17 15:28:28 - 2026-08-17 15:28:30When am I going to have this?
2026-08-17 15:28:30 - 2026-08-17 15:28:31When am I going to have that?
2026-08-17 15:28:31 - 2026-08-17 15:28:32He could see that the business needs cash to keep,
2026-08-17 15:28:33 - 2026-08-17 15:28:37and he'd be like,
2026-08-17 15:28:37 - 2026-08-17 15:28:37rolling over but we wanted it as fast as possible we agreed over 500 pounds a week and so on and uh
2026-08-17 15:28:38 - 2026-08-17 15:28:45he said he's doubtful if he can get it because the company's cash flow is not amazing never could be
2026-08-17 15:28:46 - 2026-08-17 15:28:52amazing at that point and he goes to the customers who he's befriended everybody talking to everybody
2026-08-17 15:28:53 - 2026-08-17 15:29:00finding out everybody's business how they're making money what they're doing and he says to
2026-08-17 15:29:00 - 2026-08-17 15:29:04them don't pay your bill to tlc pay to me so he could ensure he got his money even in the morning
2026-08-17 15:29:04 - 2026-08-17 15:29:11we should have that money the customers are not paying we should have the money in the company
2026-08-17 15:29:11 - 2026-08-17 15:29:16and he can get paid at the end of the day you can make pay our bills but no because he's diverting
2026-08-17 15:29:16 - 2026-08-17 15:29:22the money to himself you know and after that i revoked his power to make payments and everything
2026-08-17 15:29:22 - 2026-08-17 15:29:28from the bank still ostensibly his position now is supposed to be like salesman and he's
2026-08-17 15:29:28 - 2026-08-17 15:29:36his situation is
2026-08-17 15:29:36 - 2026-08-17 15:29:37He says, well, I cannot do anything because you don't want to buy lots of stuff.
2026-08-17 15:29:38 - 2026-08-17 15:29:42You don't have the stock to sell.
2026-08-17 15:29:42 - 2026-08-17 15:29:43Exactly.
2026-08-17 15:29:44 - 2026-08-17 15:29:45But there was a point where there was £200,000 equity there.
2026-08-17 15:29:47 - 2026-08-17 15:29:51But he wanted it back.
2026-08-17 15:29:52 - 2026-08-17 15:29:53And he still wants to earn himself something here and there.
2026-08-17 15:29:53 - 2026-08-17 15:29:57And he drops back everything, doesn't he?
2026-08-17 15:29:57 - 2026-08-17 15:29:59More than everything, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:30:00 - 2026-08-17 15:30:01Plus what would be his salary.
2026-08-17 15:30:02 - 2026-08-17 15:30:03Yeah, he's done very well already.
2026-08-17 15:30:03 - 2026-08-17 15:30:05More than very well.
2026-08-17 15:30:05 - 2026-08-17 15:30:07So he's not hard done by.
2026-08-17 15:30:07 - 2026-08-17 15:30:09Yeah, he's got nothing to...
2026-08-17 15:30:10 - 2026-08-17 15:30:11Of course he will complain, but he's got nothing to actually concrete to mourn about.
2026-08-17 15:30:11 - 2026-08-17 15:30:18Because he's done very well.
2026-08-17 15:30:18 - 2026-08-17 15:30:19So if he complains, what you said to me, you know,
2026-08-17 15:30:22 - 2026-08-17 15:30:31we can tell him and say we call it a day.
2026-08-17 15:30:32 - 2026-08-17 15:30:35Thank you.
2026-08-17 15:30:35 - 2026-08-17 15:30:36Yeah, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:30:36 - 2026-08-17 15:30:36I think sooner or later.
2026-08-17 15:30:36 - 2026-08-17 15:30:37I mean, this is my intention, but let's deal with the source first in a careful way.
2026-08-17 15:30:38 - 2026-08-17 15:30:43We have a big problem with the source.
2026-08-17 15:30:44 - 2026-08-17 15:30:46The source is one container in three months short term.
2026-08-17 15:30:46 - 2026-08-17 15:30:50Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:30:51 - 2026-08-17 15:30:51Number one.
2026-08-17 15:30:51 - 2026-08-17 15:30:52Two, he's coming to that meeting.
2026-08-17 15:30:54 - 2026-08-17 15:30:57Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:30:57 - 2026-08-17 15:30:58In that meeting, we should look united.
2026-08-17 15:30:58 - 2026-08-17 15:31:04Absolutely.
2026-08-17 15:31:05 - 2026-08-17 15:31:06Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:31:07 - 2026-08-17 15:31:07So I don't want to say anything to him before that meeting.
2026-08-17 15:31:08 - 2026-08-17 15:31:12No, that's what I'm saying.
2026-08-17 15:31:12 - 2026-08-17 15:31:13Don't do that yet.
2026-08-17 15:31:13 - 2026-08-17 15:31:14But we need to shore up the position and understand the alliances that exist with the other cash and carries,
2026-08-17 15:31:15 - 2026-08-17 15:31:22because he's the one who has been doing all the talking to them.
2026-08-17 15:31:22 - 2026-08-17 15:31:24Yeah, it's only Mohammed.
2026-08-17 15:31:24 - 2026-08-17 15:31:25Yeah, but my point is, it's not Mohammed.
2026-08-17 15:31:27 - 2026-08-17 15:31:29I'm not even sure how much Mohammed is involved, because it's not Mohammed, it's his son.
2026-08-17 15:31:30 - 2026-08-17 15:31:34Probably his son.
2026-08-17 15:31:34 - 2026-08-17 15:31:35Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:31:35 - 2026-08-17 15:31:35Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:31:36 - 2026-08-17 15:31:37He can't reach Muhammad himself.
2026-08-17 15:31:38 - 2026-08-17 15:31:39That's why I'm seeing Akbar
2026-08-17 15:31:39 - 2026-08-17 15:31:41to tell me about Muhammad's business.
2026-08-17 15:31:44 - 2026-08-17 15:31:48And if he's not answering me,
2026-08-17 15:31:48 - 2026-08-17 15:31:50I'll make Akbar to call him.
2026-08-17 15:31:51 - 2026-08-17 15:31:53Yeah, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:31:53 - 2026-08-17 15:31:54Because Muhammad is very retired.
2026-08-17 15:31:54 - 2026-08-17 15:31:57Manoah, no.
2026-08-17 15:31:57 - 2026-08-17 15:31:58I think that Muhammad is very much
2026-08-17 15:31:58 - 2026-08-17 15:32:00retired from worrying about all that kind of thing.
2026-08-17 15:32:03 - 2026-08-17 15:32:06Because if you can't reach him,
2026-08-17 15:32:07 - 2026-08-17 15:32:08and Damoun definitely is not speaking to Muhammad.
2026-08-17 15:32:08 - 2026-08-17 15:32:10When I spoke, when I went there,
2026-08-17 15:32:11 - 2026-08-17 15:32:13he was telling me what to do,
2026-08-17 15:32:13 - 2026-08-17 15:32:16and he said, okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:16 - 2026-08-17 15:32:17Maybe, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:32:17 - 2026-08-17 15:32:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:32:18 - 2026-08-17 15:32:19But I don't think that Damoun
2026-08-17 15:32:19 - 2026-08-17 15:32:20has spoken to Muhammad either.
2026-08-17 15:32:20 - 2026-08-17 15:32:21So if you can get direct to Muhammad,
2026-08-17 15:32:21 - 2026-08-17 15:32:23that's the best way.
2026-08-17 15:32:23 - 2026-08-17 15:32:24Yeah.
2026-08-17 15:32:24 - 2026-08-17 15:32:25I'm seeing Manoah so that he can phone
2026-08-17 15:32:27 - 2026-08-17 15:32:29in front of me to Muhammad.
2026-08-17 15:32:30 - 2026-08-17 15:32:32Okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:33 - 2026-08-17 15:32:33Okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:34 - 2026-08-17 15:32:34Good for him.
2026-08-17 15:32:35 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36Okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36Okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36Okay.
2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:37and we'll see how that goes.
2026-08-17 15:32:38 - 2026-08-17 15:32:38Are you going home today?
2026-08-17 15:32:39 - 2026-08-17 15:32:40Yeah, of course, but not yet.
2026-08-17 15:32:40 - 2026-08-17 15:32:42I'm not there.
2026-08-17 15:32:45 - 2026-08-17 15:32:46Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's all evening, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:32:46 - 2026-08-17 15:32:49Yeah, I'll come round.
2026-08-17 15:32:49 - 2026-08-17 15:32:50I'll come round.
2026-08-17 15:32:51 - 2026-08-17 15:32:52Okay, then, okay, thank you.
2026-08-17 15:32:52 - 2026-08-17 15:32:54I'm going to ask you to see him.
2026-08-17 15:32:54 - 2026-08-17 15:32:57Yeah, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:32:58 - 2026-08-17 15:32:59And I'll just listen to him, that's all.
2026-08-17 15:33:00 - 2026-08-17 15:33:02Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:33:02 - 2026-08-17 15:33:03If you can record it, it's even better,
2026-08-17 15:33:03 - 2026-08-17 15:33:05but it's not easy to do it.
2026-08-17 15:33:05 - 2026-08-17 15:33:07Uh, because we'd better analyse it afterwards, you know.
2026-08-17 15:33:10 - 2026-08-17 15:33:14Yes.
2026-08-17 15:33:15 - 2026-08-17 15:33:15Never mind, anyway, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:33:16 - 2026-08-17 15:33:17Okay, then, I don't know how to record it, to be honest.
2026-08-17 15:33:18 - 2026-08-17 15:33:21No, I'll sort that with you later, we'll do something, yeah.
2026-08-17 15:33:21 - 2026-08-17 15:33:25Okay, for future, okay, bye-bye.
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