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Status: completed · Language: en · Source: Unknown source · Captured: 2026-08-14 15:58:45 · Hello? Hello, Ben. Hi. Hi. Are you okay? I'm all right. You know, someone told me to make an appointment with you. Yes.
Hello?
2026-08-14 15:58:46 - 2026-08-14 15:58:46Hello, Ben.
2026-08-14 15:58:47 - 2026-08-14 15:58:48Hi.
2026-08-14 15:58:48 - 2026-08-14 15:58:48Hi.
2026-08-14 15:58:48 - 2026-08-14 15:58:49Are you okay?
2026-08-14 15:58:50 - 2026-08-14 15:58:51I'm all right.
2026-08-14 15:58:52 - 2026-08-14 15:58:53You know, someone told me to make an appointment with you.
2026-08-14 15:58:53 - 2026-08-14 15:58:57Yes.
2026-08-14 15:58:57 - 2026-08-14 15:58:57I think.
2026-08-14 15:58:58 - 2026-08-14 15:58:58Yeah.
2026-08-14 15:58:59 - 2026-08-14 15:58:59I'll make a appointment.
2026-08-14 15:58:59 - 2026-08-14 15:59:00It's not a graphic theater, but it is probably Tuesday or something.
2026-08-14 15:59:00 - 2026-08-14 15:59:05Okay.
2026-08-14 15:59:06 - 2026-08-14 15:59:06The background of it, I didn't know until someone told me,
2026-08-14 15:59:07 - 2026-08-14 15:59:12but the intentions are to buy it under another company.
2026-08-14 15:59:12 - 2026-08-14 15:59:17No, that wasn't discussed with Daman.
2026-08-14 15:59:18 - 2026-08-14 15:59:20That wasn't discussed.
2026-08-14 15:59:22 - 2026-08-14 15:59:23It wasn't discussed, so we better know before what the intentions are.
2026-08-14 15:59:23 - 2026-08-14 15:59:32I think his first intention, because he's getting that shop,
2026-08-14 15:59:32 - 2026-08-14 15:59:36he's opening that shop and he wants to use pizza-made sauce,
2026-08-14 15:59:36 - 2026-08-14 15:59:39and he was thinking any way he can to get pizza-made sauce for that shop.
2026-08-14 15:59:39 - 2026-08-14 15:59:43And then he said,
2026-08-14 15:59:44 - 2026-08-14 15:59:44He started talking to Mohammed, his son-in-law in Middlesbrough, and he said we can get them
2026-08-14 15:59:45 - 2026-08-14 15:59:50to fund it and make a contract and get a fresh container.
2026-08-14 15:59:50 - 2026-08-14 15:59:54Exactly who is planning to do it, in his favor or benefit, I don't know.
2026-08-14 15:59:55 - 2026-08-14 15:59:59But between us, as far as I'm gathering, today, his intention is not to involve the TLC in
2026-08-14 15:59:59 - 2026-08-14 16:00:28a way to buy the source under that new company.
2026-08-14 16:00:28 - 2026-08-14 16:00:32I know.
2026-08-14 16:00:32 - 2026-08-14 16:00:33Definitely he wants that.
2026-08-14 16:00:33 - 2026-08-14 16:00:34He's wanting it all the time, yeah.
2026-08-14 16:00:35 - 2026-08-14 16:00:36You know, and it's like you're hijacking, you know, our craft, and this and that.
2026-08-14 16:00:37 - 2026-08-14 16:00:44But that should not be that serious.
2026-08-14 16:00:45 - 2026-08-14 16:00:48That is really undermining us.
2026-08-14 16:00:48 - 2026-08-14 16:00:51Yeah, but it's not the first time he's done that, to be honest.
2026-08-14 16:00:51 - 2026-08-14 16:00:54He's very, very good at looking after himself.
2026-08-14 16:00:55 - 2026-08-14 16:00:58Yeah, of course it is.
2026-08-14 16:00:59 - 2026-08-14 16:01:00I think we should all go to that meeting.
2026-08-14 16:01:02 - 2026-08-14 16:01:08If we can go without him, it's even better.
2026-08-14 16:01:08 - 2026-08-14 16:01:11But we don't know when it is.
2026-08-14 16:01:12 - 2026-08-14 16:01:13I find that.
2026-08-14 16:01:16 - 2026-08-14 16:01:17Okay, we can do it without him.
2026-08-14 16:01:17 - 2026-08-14 16:01:19It's better for us.
2026-08-14 16:01:19 - 2026-08-14 16:01:20Yeah, but can we pay for a container load?
2026-08-14 16:01:21 - 2026-08-14 16:01:26No, but we need to bring him involved for Middlesbrough.
2026-08-14 16:01:26 - 2026-08-14 16:01:29And maybe that'll come.
2026-08-14 16:01:30 - 2026-08-14 16:01:31Because as I understood it, he wants to be ready to pay for a container load himself in Middlesbrough anyway.
2026-08-14 16:01:32 - 2026-08-14 16:01:39He wants to have that brand for himself.
2026-08-14 16:01:41 - 2026-08-14 16:01:44I don't know about Mohamed, Mohamed wants the sauce and he's willing to pay for it up front.
2026-08-14 16:01:48 - 2026-08-14 16:02:00Damoun wants to hijack it and that's the deal, he talks to them a lot and he talks to Delicor
2026-08-14 16:02:02 - 2026-08-14 16:02:11a lot, he goes to Leeds to visit friends and he pops into Delicor as a chat with them making
2026-08-14 16:02:11 - 2026-08-14 16:02:16his own plans, which I don't know what's going on.
2026-08-14 16:02:16 - 2026-08-14 16:02:19I need to go see the boss as well, Mohamed, because he asked me how's the situation, how
2026-08-14 16:02:20 - 2026-08-14 16:02:30are you.
2026-08-14 16:02:30 - 2026-08-14 16:02:30It's about that money as well that I'm paying him and so we better be straight with Damoun,
2026-08-14 16:02:31 - 2026-08-14 16:02:42so that's enough.
2026-08-14 16:02:43 - 2026-08-14 16:02:44Why under a different company?
2026-08-14 16:02:45 - 2026-08-14 16:02:47You know what I mean?
2026-08-14 16:02:48 - 2026-08-14 16:02:49It's after a fifth in a container of...
2026-08-14 16:02:49 - 2026-08-14 16:02:52Of course, yeah.
2026-08-14 16:02:52 - 2026-08-14 16:02:53Why should it be under a different company
2026-08-14 16:02:53 - 2026-08-14 16:02:56when this company, when we have worked for it
2026-08-14 16:02:56 - 2026-08-14 16:02:59for years and years to bring it to the thing?
2026-08-14 16:02:59 - 2026-08-14 16:03:04It's not pleasant.
2026-08-14 16:03:08 - 2026-08-14 16:03:10You know what I mean?
2026-08-14 16:03:11 - 2026-08-14 16:03:12And then I speak to Manu.
2026-08-14 16:03:12 - 2026-08-14 16:03:15It's for what's his name?
2026-08-14 16:03:15 - 2026-08-14 16:03:20He's too good, I know.
2026-08-14 16:03:37 - 2026-08-14 16:03:38He's not come here to hijack brands and get it for nothing.
2026-08-14 16:03:45 - 2026-08-14 16:03:50No, exactly.
2026-08-14 16:03:51 - 2026-08-14 16:03:52That belongs to TH.
2026-08-14 16:03:52 - 2026-08-14 16:03:54No.
2026-08-14 16:03:54 - 2026-08-14 16:03:55Why does it have to be a different company?
2026-08-14 16:03:58 - 2026-08-14 16:04:00Yeah, I think it's better if he's not present at the appointment.
2026-08-14 16:04:01 - 2026-08-14 16:04:04He doesn't need to know when it is.
2026-08-14 16:04:04 - 2026-08-14 16:04:06I know the answer would be it's risky.
2026-08-14 16:04:06 - 2026-08-14 16:04:11Don't worry.
2026-08-14 16:04:11 - 2026-08-14 16:04:12Yeah, you'll find out when the appointment is.
2026-08-14 16:04:12 - 2026-08-14 16:04:15Yeah.
2026-08-14 16:04:15 - 2026-08-14 16:04:16And we'll go.
2026-08-14 16:04:16 - 2026-08-14 16:04:17You and I will go.
2026-08-14 16:04:17 - 2026-08-14 16:04:18You don't want to do that, like, say you can't come in, but we have to clear it.
2026-08-14 16:04:18 - 2026-08-14 16:04:24No, I'd do it anyway, you know.
2026-08-14 16:04:24 - 2026-08-14 16:04:25We'll see.
2026-08-14 16:04:26 - 2026-08-14 16:04:27Let me see when it is passed.
2026-08-14 16:04:27 - 2026-08-14 16:04:29And it's not the sort of artist shop or anything.
2026-08-14 16:04:29 - 2026-08-14 16:04:33I don't think.
2026-08-14 16:04:33 - 2026-08-14 16:04:34It started with that because he was trying so many different pizza sauces.
2026-08-14 16:04:34 - 2026-08-14 16:04:38And it reminded him that that one is special.
2026-08-14 16:04:39 - 2026-08-14 16:04:42Yeah.
2026-08-14 16:04:43 - 2026-08-14 16:04:43I mean, yeah, it is, but I don't think the whole, there's ulterior motive here.
2026-08-14 16:04:45 - 2026-08-14 16:04:51Of course there is, you always have.
2026-08-14 16:04:51 - 2026-08-14 16:04:53And he's telling me that you've got a brand of flour and this and that, you know what I mean?
2026-08-14 16:04:53 - 2026-08-14 16:04:58I say it's a brand and I work on it and I build a business on that.
2026-08-14 16:04:59 - 2026-08-14 16:05:03Who the hell he is to come and take our brand or whatever, you know,
2026-08-14 16:05:03 - 2026-08-14 16:05:10just because we are in a problem with a container of people, so it's direct.
2026-08-14 16:05:10 - 2026-08-14 16:05:13Okay, that is exactly the same thing that Akbar did, you know, but with a different way.
2026-08-14 16:05:16 - 2026-08-14 16:05:23That's just no proper honesty and there's no good intention there, you know.
2026-08-14 16:05:25 - 2026-08-14 16:05:31No, he hasn't gone.
2026-08-14 16:05:32 - 2026-08-14 16:05:33Every time a customer comes along, he gets to know them personally
2026-08-14 16:05:34 - 2026-08-14 16:05:39and starts arranging some other business.
2026-08-14 16:05:39 - 2026-08-14 16:05:41Oh, I've got this idea, I've got that idea.
2026-08-14 16:05:41 - 2026-08-14 16:05:43And before.
2026-08-14 16:05:44 - 2026-08-14 16:05:44only Iranian, and he's like running all the things with everybody all the time, everything.
2026-08-14 16:05:45 - 2026-08-14 16:05:51He's a bit on with the place as well.
2026-08-14 16:05:51 - 2026-08-14 16:05:53It doesn't matter about those people, those people have their goods, they buy it.
2026-08-14 16:05:53 - 2026-08-14 16:05:58But it does, because when they had to pay, he very upset me.
2026-08-14 16:05:58 - 2026-08-14 16:06:02And he says, people ask to pay him money for the business.
2026-08-14 16:06:02 - 2026-08-14 16:06:07And he talked with some Iranians and he said, pay the money to me, not to TLC.
2026-08-14 16:06:08 - 2026-08-14 16:06:14That's okay, that's wrong.
2026-08-14 16:06:14 - 2026-08-14 16:06:16He's had all his money back, hasn't he?
2026-08-14 16:06:18 - 2026-08-14 16:06:20Yeah, a long, long, long time ago.
2026-08-14 16:06:20 - 2026-08-14 16:06:22So what's he doing?
2026-08-14 16:06:22 - 2026-08-14 16:06:23No, he's just like looking after himself now.
2026-08-14 16:06:24 - 2026-08-14 16:06:28Ask him big.
2026-08-14 16:06:29 - 2026-08-14 16:06:30Yeah, talk about that.
2026-08-14 16:06:30 - 2026-08-14 16:06:32Yeah, I was there and he was just following me and talking about it, and I didn't like it.
2026-08-14 16:06:32 - 2026-08-14 16:06:37And I said, well, even if you pay or anybody pays, the goods are here in front of our eyes.
2026-08-14 16:06:38 - 2026-08-14 16:06:43Yeah.
2026-08-14 16:06:44 - 2026-08-14 16:06:44It's amazing.
2026-08-14 16:06:44 - 2026-08-14 16:06:44the money yeah you know what is any other case yeah okay wait can you find out before it's too
2026-08-14 16:06:45 - 2026-08-14 16:06:56late when is the appointment write it down yeah and we'll talk about it on the mic okay i'll find
2026-08-14 16:06:56 - 2026-08-14 16:07:08out i can't make a message today is it can you can is it when is it is probably choose
2026-08-14 16:07:08 - 2026-08-14 16:07:15there probably he'll know that okay but but that one doesn't know you know that's the thing
2026-08-14 16:07:15 - 2026-08-14 16:07:21because nobody knows because you told thursday to sarah no monday i'll tell you now you're saying
2026-08-14 16:07:21 - 2026-08-14 16:07:27i'll find you he didn't answer then i'll say that this appointment is there i didn't know
2026-08-14 16:07:27 - 2026-08-14 16:07:35that the dominant's playing that game so can you find out when it is and we can plan from there
2026-08-14 16:07:35 - 2026-08-14 16:07:40how we'll go on yeah but there's another way as well beforehand
2026-08-14 16:07:40 - 2026-08-14 16:07:44talk to him and say sorry we're not happy with that yeah yeah yeah let's first find out when it is
2026-08-14 16:07:45 - 2026-08-14 16:07:53okay okay all right all right
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