Yeah, the other things I was thinking you go through, like Liverpool, Chester, and that's, yeah, and there is something here, but I don't know which way is more interesting, is it that or the other?

If you want this angle, so we've been there, that's very rugged, very nature, very, bit flat though there, because it's like right up in the center.

But if you ever want to, if your kids are into surfing, it's like, the sea's like, it's like quite wild there.

No, maybe somewhere south there.

Yeah.

So do you think if you want to choose, is it better to choose North Wales or that?

It depends what you want to do.

Northumberland?

Northumberland.

It's really difficult to choose because they're both really nice.

But you've probably got more along this coast where you can drive.

I can drive too, like I am.