He wants me to join the list at what is over there, but then £4,000 is too much for him, but £4,000 is the middle ground, so he's going to set it up.

Yeah, I know, because his whole thing is now all of a sudden, it's not, he's got any problem, it's me, I need to do this, I need to pay the bank, I need to do this, he's got insurance, I need to pay this, these things, I don't know.

It's just that we'll go on and ignore it. But Roger did say, he kept saying, tell Roger we've paid the bank, we've paid the bank £1,500 a month, and then after all, Roger says, why don't you just offer £500, I'll make him accept that, I'll pay you back, it's a lot of money, and that's that.

Oh, is that what he suggested?

Yeah, the last thing that's happened is Roger's proposed to the bank, and then my dad said some stuff about the building that we're in.

Oh, sorry.