clarity we get is from the heart scan, echocardiogram. You know, you had it, we've done it.

So would that reveal anything?

Well, yeah, because that revealed the heart failure.

No, but I mean the heart condition.

Yeah, absolutely. That's full imaging of the heart, yeah.

You've had it, you know, you've had it, we've had it.

2024, we had several of them, tiny ones, and we had for you, yeah, and it was very revealing.

I've never had one, even though I'm known to have a small hole.

And Anna's got a hole, and that, we'll find out everything, yeah.

You know, does she get breathless? Is it tied with exercise?

Well, when we're rushing to school and we're late, that's when she does say, it hurts my chest.

He says, and I think, also asthma, he says, it is so unlikely,

because the main symptom is like labored breathing, like breathing's hard,

and it's not, the breathing doesn't seem effective.

Anyway, it was a very good experience.