Behnam mentions that traffic was bad after setting off at five. SPEAKER_00 explains that when the child has clubs from 3:30 to 4:30, there is no point picking her up at 5 because she does not want to leave. In the past, SPEAKER_00 sometimes had to leave and come back because the child was screaming or crying, and eventually arranged to return at 6:30. They discuss that 6:30 is the last time one can enter from the other side, and SPEAKER_00 just made it in time on a couple of occasions.