Behnam described Albania's coast as wealthy, safe and touristic, but mentioned a scandal involving Donald Trump's son-in-law building a nature reserve/resorts on protected beach areas where dolphins and turtles nest, leading to nightly protests against the Prime Minister. He then recounted a 2005 day trip from Corfu to Saranda, describing open sewers, old Mercedes cars, a guarded hotel, a restaurant bill paid with five euros, and missing the ferry due to a time-zone difference; they caught a later boat full of Albanians heading to the EU. The conversation ended with safety comparisons between Albania and Morocco/Tunisia/Egypt, with Behnam saying Albania is still Europe and resorts are safe.