0:02
I was sitting there, like, thinking and thinking the way he does.
0:13
So, the bird just came after he'd come.
0:16
And I walked with him in the corner and told him.
0:19
I said, I'll see you at eight o'clock tonight.
0:21
He said, we can talk now.
0:23
I said to him, I'll see you at eight o'clock tonight.
0:30
He said, we can talk now.
0:32
Yeah.
0:34
Yeah.
0:34
And he got very anxious, you know, about what we were doing.
0:42
I said, you can be a partner with me.
0:45
Put your money.
0:50
Yeah.
0:51
And if I have future money in the future, anything, a couple of thousand, a thousand, a thousand, I'll put it there.
0:59
Okay.
1:01
You put your money and you will take out of the business profit
1:08
half of your money.
1:11
Yeah.
1:12
You pay, first I tell you, you don't have to pay rent.
1:19
You know that.
1:20
You don't have to pay rent.
1:21
Yeah, but we have to pay.
1:23
No, he's interested in the back building to separate it from TLC.
1:31
Yeah, he always has been, yeah.
1:33
Yeah, he's been thinking about that.
1:36
I said, no, for two years we can be here and I will not separate that from the...
2:00
cheaper
2:03
if he
2:04
yeah
2:05
cheaper as one
2:08
yeah
2:09
he kept saying
2:10
Venom
2:10
happy
2:11
Venom
2:11
this
2:12
Venom
2:12
no
2:13
he didn't
2:14
he can't talk
2:15
against you
2:16
in front of me
2:17
you know what I mean
2:19
he's never
2:21
he has nothing
2:22
serious
2:23
to complain either
2:24
he's just
2:24
he's done very well
2:26
out of me
2:27
and he's just
2:27
genuinely unhappy
2:29
because I don't
2:30
match his enthusiasm
2:31
to
2:31
buy
2:33
stuff he wants to buy
2:34
and I don't have money
2:36
yeah
2:36
so he comes out
2:38
in
2:38
frustration
2:39
you don't have money
2:39
because he pulled the rug
2:41
out of your feet
2:42
because he took it
2:42
yeah exactly
2:43
yeah
2:44
he pulled the rug
2:45
out of your feet
2:45
at a premium
2:46
at a premium actually
2:50
what do you mean
2:51
premium
2:52
I mean
2:52
he had
2:53
he had extra
2:54
twenty something thousand
2:55
more
2:57
than what he put in
2:58
he made money
2:59
we
3:00
He bought it for a few months, because it was a capital.
3:04
And also he played games, he has wedges, and he played games about how to get the money
3:14
with the customers and everything, like to protect it, even if the company is bankrupt
3:20
tomorrow, but he gets his money today.
3:23
Yeah.
3:24
Okay.
3:25
You pulled the rug out of your feet.
3:33
He wasn't happy.
3:34
And now he wants a lot on the planet about what I'm going to do with the house in Tehran,
3:39
what I'm going to do with the building in the back, all that shit.
3:44
And all the time he tried to find people, like bringing people, they want to rent the building.
3:50
Somebody wants to rent the building.
3:51
Some Pakistanis want to make a PVC factory in the back.
3:54
He doesn't even know them.
3:56
He's telling me, you should do it.
3:57
You should do it.
3:58
You should do it.
3:59
He's telling me if you…
4:00
them you'll pay less tax you know what i meant yeah i said no
4:21
and i'm a bit of french
4:24
two years maybe here i'll work for it you work and you said
4:35
i said look don't go to that because what does it
4:40
got to do with me you know what does any of that got to do
4:45
with me it's completely separate yeah i said don't go to that office
4:51
you know what i meant don't go to that office
4:55
don't go to there nothing finish finish it
5:00
No, no, no, no, it's okay, I want your help, I'm there.
5:05
I said, don't, don't.
5:08
He may not need your help.
5:10
He wants to do his business his own way.
5:13
Yeah, and he's doing his own business.
5:14
He's coming there and making so many phone calls about his oven
5:18
and his gas connection and his alcohol license and everything for his shop.
5:23
Yeah.
5:24
He's doing his own business in there.
5:28
Yeah, it's a ridiculous amount.
5:32
And some days he doesn't even come.
5:35
Yeah, but he's supposed to take that and go out and find the business,
5:40
retain the business, everything.
5:43
He doesn't follow any of them.
5:44
He only pays the last few months.
5:46
He's just looking at the ones who are in his circle of friends.
5:50
And he had £675 this week and last week.
5:55
Yeah.
5:55
Yeah, from the last four months.
6:00
I honestly didn't know that,
6:02
otherwise I would have had a temperature fever.
6:05
Yeah, I know, I know.
6:06
That is a big money for Tiazina.
6:09
It is, yeah.
6:11
Massive money.
6:12
For anybody, yeah, and it's not enough for him.
6:15
He's so upset, he's getting paid.
6:18
To be their salesman,
6:20
and he's using it just to find his own opportunity.
6:23
It's three grand a month, yeah.
6:26
Anyhow, I said to him,
6:27
this is how we do it, and I've worked for it, you know.
6:32
But if I go anywhere, I will take the mileage, everything, you know.
6:40
And I try to get business.
6:42
Then in future, if it's a second container,
6:46
a third container of the pizza sauce,
6:49
we go and get pizza boxes.
6:52
Yeah?
6:53
From Turkey, not from these things.
6:58
Not any of these bastards, yeah.
7:00
Yeah.
7:00
Yeah.
7:00
Yeah, and then there's a chance of buying drinks as well.
7:06
Yeah.
7:06
There's not much profit in drinks, I said to you.
7:09
No.
7:10
Huh?
7:11
Yeah, if you get one line of cola from Denmark or whatever, you know.
7:16
Yeah, if you get five containers from Turkey.
7:19
Yeah, one drink, yeah.
7:22
Then we do it here.
7:25
And we can, you know, TLC has got a space now for us to put four or five containers in one corner.
7:36
You know?
7:37
Yes.
7:39
You said tomorrow is important.
7:42
Oh, you said, what about Pizza Mate, the brand?
7:52
I said, that is my brand.
7:54
Yeah.
7:55
You know what I mean?
7:56
Yeah.
7:56
And Bilberry Night as such, yeah.
7:58
That is my brand.
8:00
And it can be in our business.
8:04
So in our business, that's how we started.
8:08
And then I said,
8:13
Pizza Mate is only one of the items that we are targeting to sell.
8:18
Yeah, exactly.
8:20
And my arrangement with you is this.
8:23
And it's been on TLC, from TLC.
8:26
Buy anything you get, we will sell at cost price.
8:29
I said, okay.
8:30
He said, thank you.
8:30
But if he buys six cases of pizza sauce,
8:38
he'll pay there and then.
8:40
You know what I mean?
8:43
Because he can afford to do that.
8:46
He doesn't need credit for food.
8:51
And then, obviously, he's going to talk to his wife.
8:58
That's what my wife said.
9:02
Any time when their wives are involved.
9:05
Yeah, I know.
9:06
With them, it's like that, yeah.
9:08
Yeah.
9:08
With them more than anybody I've ever seen, yeah.
9:11
Yeah, but there are a lot of people.
9:14
Like me, I...
9:17
Manu, we're partners.
9:19
And actually, I was like his wife all the time.
9:24
Yeah.
9:24
And that's what my wife said.
9:25
Okay, well, your wife was right.
9:27
Fair enough.
9:28
Well, Damone said that.
9:29
Yeah, that's what my wife said.
9:31
My wife said, yeah, just follow up two or three items.
9:35
That's better than...
9:37
It is, yeah.
9:38
It is.
9:39
And, you know, partly because he's not...
9:42
Honestly, after seeing him day in and day out for so long,
9:47
he's not a very intelligent guy at all.
9:50
No.
9:51
Not at all.
9:51
He doesn't understand half of what he's talking about.
9:54
Yeah.
9:55
And everything that's on his wife.
9:56
I know he's not.
9:58
I know he's not.
9:59
I know he's not.
10:00
I know he's not.
10:00
I know he's not.
10:00
And I don't think he's a very nice guy either.
10:03
No, inside, no.
10:05
No, he's not.
10:06
Yeah, he's selfish.
10:08
Yeah, very.
10:10
So if I go to partnership,
10:13
because I have to, yeah?
10:15
Yeah.
10:17
And I'll be watching him all the time now.
10:20
They won't be like...
10:21
You see, if you think that Ali is an option,
10:25
a little bit further down the line,
10:28
we've been with our pizza-made sauce already
10:30
for seven months, eight months,
10:33
another three months,
10:34
doesn't change anything.
10:36
Ali would never do
10:38
in a hundred years' business, really.
10:41
This is what I mean.
10:43
So tomorrow is the appointment with David.
10:47
What I'm saying is,
10:50
after that,
10:53
it doesn't have to be something
10:55
that we need to do now.
10:57
If the appointment wasn't in a rush made.
11:00
You know, it's already been seven months.
11:04
Another three months to wait is not a big deal
11:06
if Ali is an option instead.
11:09
But we don't know what happens in three months with Ali.
11:11
It might be not as easy for him.
11:13
But David is somebody that if we don't talk to him,
11:17
we can never talk to him in the future, this company.
11:20
I know that.
11:21
I know, yeah.
11:23
That's a point as well.
11:25
So there must be some compromise.
11:28
Mohamed has already accepted it.
11:31
Give it to me, I'll tell you how price I buy it.
11:33
You know what I mean?
11:34
Yeah, yeah.
11:36
Things like that.
11:37
For three months, we can sell to try to get revenue.
11:40
Near Christmas, we could probably be able to.
11:42
Yeah, yeah.
11:43
Okay?
11:44
Yes.
11:48
And we will ask, please come with us.
11:53
Pardon?
11:54
Please come with us.
11:56
Okay.
11:57
Yeah.
11:58
Things are going to be difficult.
12:00
With Susanna, she's not...
12:02
I'm responsible for Anna.
12:04
What time is the appointment?
12:06
1.30.
12:08
Yeah, okay.
12:10
I'll be there, yeah.
12:11
I'll be there and I'll have to straight back to home.
12:14
Yes, thank you.
12:15
I'd like to go and record it, you know, to be honest.
12:18
And we have...
12:19
It's your job to tell Domon
12:22
that Domon can't afford you.
12:26
Yes, yes, yes.
12:27
And you're going to see...
12:29
He's going to come back to you tomorrow
12:30
with that, probably, on that wholesale proposition.
12:34
Yeah, after that, when we come back,
12:36
either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow,
12:39
when we form the company,
12:41
tell him, Domon, we can't afford you.
12:45
Yes, yes.
12:46
No, I'm sorry.
12:47
I'm going to...
12:49
I've decided to go out and sell him myself.
12:53
Yeah, the only time we had this conversation,
12:55
he said,
12:57
he said, no, no, no.
12:58
I said, what?
12:59
Your intention is because he...
13:00
starting that shop you're busy with that all the time at the moment yes no i mean but if you bring
13:05
something i'll tell it if you order five pallets of pepperoni then i can go and sell it and she
13:09
knows it's not possible and that's been the last few days he's like he's taking a piss yeah
13:17
he wants that income continuously from a business that doesn't make that money
13:25
and then and then with the narrative of that i'm helping i want to help i want to do this i want to
13:33
do and equally complaining because i don't bring enough money to it yeah yeah yeah i'm worried
13:42
about the change as well now well i'm taking a loan taking a loan but it's honestly it's a disaster
13:51
it's a disaster yeah
13:53
it's not
13:54
it's not possible with no money you know it's not possible to do anything
14:01
That cheese we can get from many places.
14:03
We shouldn't even be using pre-machined.
14:06
Yeah, but at the moment, the orders are pretty much...
14:10
There's so much else to do.
14:11
Until you sell it, you know?
14:13
Yeah.
14:13
Until you sell it.
14:15
Yeah.
14:19
Okay.
14:20
All right, then.
14:23
We'll see why you came back then.
14:24
Please come.
14:26
Please come to me.
14:27
I will.
14:27
I will.
14:28
I will.
14:28
It's important.
14:29
I know.
14:31
Okay, then.
14:31
All right.
14:32
Bye-bye.
14:32
Bye.
14:32
Bye.
14:33
But you don't know.
14:34
We don't know.
14:35
Well, what the intention is of Daman until then.
14:39
Intention of Daman cannot be...
14:42
No, we know what his intention is.
14:44
But is he going to respond to you in the morning and say,
14:47
okay, let's do that?
14:48
Or is he going to go and pretend I'm representing TLC
14:51
and I'm come to talk about pizza crust?
14:55
This is what I mean, if you could do it before I talk.
14:59
It's just...
15:00
I'll tell him just normal, I'm going there in the morning, please you come as well early.
15:06
I'm just telling him that just like last time we spoke, we speak like that.
15:13
Okay, I wasn't there last time.
15:16
Yeah, he's talking on behalf of the company, that's it.
15:22
Yeah, he might come back to you tomorrow morning and say, okay, let's do that.
15:28
Let's do what?
15:30
The wholesale, as partners with you.
15:33
Yeah, he started me, it's all right.
15:35
But it changes the way you would present it in the meeting.
15:40
I said to him, I said to him, look, you work for so many years, the company is your baby.
15:51
I said, please make it my baby.
15:54
Yeah.
15:54
Yeah, that's right.
15:56
I will never part from it, I said.
15:58
Yeah, yeah.
16:00
pizza made
16:02
okay is important
16:04
but soon
16:05
pizza made will not be that important
16:08
let me bring other items
16:10
yeah exactly
16:12
you know what I mean
16:14
I said pizza made
16:16
will be in my name that's it
16:18
but tomorrow
16:20
we tell him not to talk about it
16:23
yeah
16:25
okay
16:25
you know
16:28
you said something
16:30
about Bezat was there
16:31
did you say you talked to Bezat as well
16:34
no
16:35
we were just talking about
16:37
cars, politics, shit like that
16:40
but I think
16:41
there is something between them
16:43
you know and I asked that
16:46
I didn't say
16:47
exactly Bezat
16:49
I said do you have other partners or anything
16:52
I said no
16:53
and he said no
16:56
you know
16:57
he didn't want to talk about it
16:59
okay
17:00
okay
17:00
I said, if you have any other partner or anything,
17:03
it's partner just in case.
17:06
You can be partner with anybody,
17:08
but when you put my partner, I'm only partner with you.
17:11
Yeah.
17:14
Okay.
17:17
Okay, and the name should be protected.
17:21
I know Bezal had the intention before,
17:23
he was friend with the Indian, dodgy Indian mafia in Manchester.
17:28
Yeah.
17:29
And they wanted to catch and carry in Sheffield
17:33
and he was going to be partner with them.
17:35
He didn't because Daman came into TLC,
17:37
but he's still always interested in that.
17:39
Daman's now got knowledge of the suppliers and the products and whatever
17:43
and something is going on around the back of that.
17:47
Bezal had lied to me.
17:48
He's got that package.
17:51
He's a thief.
17:53
Yeah.
17:54
Daman, they're criminals.
17:56
Bad criminals.
17:58
Yeah.
18:00
said by chinese yeah mafia yeah yeah they don't back up and i said i'm surprised that the
18:12
this company he said yeah i found it a bit odd you know yeah and but he always
18:22
always hide from me that he was buying from delico yeah yeah
18:27
you know he wasn't buying a lot from delico as well he was buying mostly from them in
18:34
manchester yeah he was just buying the haram stuff from yeah yeah
18:42
they just love money that's all they love money but not in an unhealthy way and it's not that
18:47
better not possible that better you can't do business with him
18:52
three days he can make evil plans he will think and he's not easily
19:00
you know what I mean
19:01
yeah
19:01
he's got no class
19:02
no proper manner
19:04
you know what I mean
19:06
and I think
19:07
you know
19:08
the thing about Damone
19:09
is
19:09
his
19:11
overriding characteristic
19:12
is that
19:13
he's a bit stupid
19:14
and he's
19:15
led by his wife
19:16
and he's led by Bezard
19:18
I don't think
19:18
he means to be bad
19:20
yeah
19:20
or harmful
19:21
he just
19:22
yeah
19:22
you know
19:23
his wife is shrewd
19:25
and sharp
19:25
and looking after
19:26
the family
19:27
and whatever
19:27
and Bezard is
19:29
Bezard and they
19:31
people they love money
19:32
so much that
19:33
yeah
19:35
they
19:36
like you said
19:37
some people have to
19:38
have money
19:39
in business
19:39
but you know
19:40
it's an unhealthy level
19:42
to be
19:43
not look to the long term
19:44
of anything
19:45
and the effect of anything
19:46
I love to do
19:48
business with you
19:49
but
19:50
this is my situation
19:51
that's that
19:52
I'm selling
19:53
everything
19:55
that I can
19:56
even he's
19:57
told me the cities
19:58
and things
19:59
I got that
19:59
there
20:00
you
20:02
if you can
20:05
get me later in three months
20:07
or something
20:08
get me in
20:09
this was my point, you know with the pizza sauce
20:12
it's already gone seven, eight months
20:14
without it, another three or four months
20:16
nothing changes
20:18
yeah
20:19
so we have to
20:24
we can talk about
20:27
starting in the new year
20:28
and it gives six months to
20:31
bring the plan together
20:32
six months to do what?
20:36
to do what together?
20:37
say we want to start again, but let's start in January
20:40
give it five months
20:42
to
20:43
to talk about
20:45
a contract, to sign it
20:47
it takes them months to make it anyway
20:49
it's not
20:51
it's really kind of, but it's the season
20:53
and everything isn't it, it's August now
20:55
it's not going to come in four weeks
20:57
but it's going to
20:58
it's going to bring good money
21:00
you know what i mean but yeah to buy this for the new company that's how you understand
21:09
you know what that otherwise we have to change the formula okay company can be later and do this to
21:16
say that way that way and you take what i'm saying is i'm guessing that if even they say okay we can
21:24
make you five six containers in a year we can do that we can it won't be ready in four weeks
21:30
because we haven't set the contract up in time for the season probably takes months before the first
21:36
contract but we have to uh short out this the one that is out of state where containers the
21:45
30th thousand pounds yeah they're losing and they don't want to yeah yes you know yeah and
21:54
they can give our brand to i can't anybody
22:07
Yeah, that's why it has to be now, but at the same time, anything that's agreed or discussed,
22:14
money won't be needed for months, because they're not going to make it for months.
22:19
For this lot, we get some pizza sauce and sell it, pass it on to Mohammed and Akbar.
22:28
Yeah, but I'm saying if it's going to take them three months, let's say, because
22:31
it's not made.
22:32
No, the one that's just done.
22:34
I'm talking about the one that's just done.
22:36
Ah, you want to get it.
22:37
You want to get it?
22:39
Yeah, because Mohammed said, I want to get it cheap.
22:44
Ah, okay, sorry, I missed it, yeah.
22:46
I want to get it cheap and negotiate the price.
22:51
If he said, no, you have to buy it at the contract price, I said, okay, get this money
22:57
from us over a year or over...
23:01
18 months for this.
23:03
Yeah, but it's been cheaper for now, yeah.
23:05
You know what I mean?
23:06
Yeah, yeah, I see.
23:10
Okay, it's clear to me, sorry, I missed that point.
23:13
No, no.
23:14
Okay, yeah, and that will come within days then, yeah, that should come within days.
23:19
Yeah, even if we have that, it's got two months, three months, whatever, we can settle.
23:25
Yeah, yeah, I think, and in the next lot, it would take a few months.
23:29
So the time, in that time, we see where Ali comes back to anything, or anybody else, not to involve Daman too heavily.
23:38
Yeah, but if Daman wants to come in, because he loves money, Ali cannot help me in any way.
23:45
Yeah, Daman knows people to do it, Daman can help you with that, yeah, of course.
23:49
Yeah, and if Daman wants to come in, one thing I know about him, not to trust him.
23:56
Yeah.
23:57
Not, you know, and watch him.
23:59
Watch his game.
24:00
what his
24:01
conversation
24:02
with his wife
24:04
then I get
24:06
and I pacify it
24:08
because
24:09
I get
24:10
talk about it
24:12
yeah
24:13
I don't know
24:14
I don't know
24:15
even
24:15
it's difficult
24:16
to explain
24:16
even
24:17
not to trust him
24:18
is too strong
24:19
it's just
24:20
really complex
24:21
it's not
24:22
yeah
24:23
yeah
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he's going okay
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it's one big problem
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I've known him
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I've known
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I've talked to him
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15 years
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yeah
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he took so much
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of my time
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asking me
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everything
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yeah yeah yeah
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I remember
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you know
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if I
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if I asked
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all that
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from people
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other businessmen
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I would have been
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a philosopher
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yes
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you know
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I know what you mean
24:48
yeah I know
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you are kind of
24:51
yeah
24:53
yeah
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ah
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yes okay
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but I know him
24:56
I know him
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how to
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deal with him
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yeah
25:00
I
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I know.
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One mile I go, I charge it.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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I charge for my petrol.
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Okay.
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Okay, it's clear.
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Yeah, I see.
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No problem.
25:16
But for you to tell him very soon, I'm sorry, I can't afford it.
25:24
But the only problem here, if we're doing it in a clever way,
25:29
because when he does that, it takes away Bezos' business,
25:34
the other twins' business.
25:36
No, no, after he pays, he's stuck with me then.
25:41
He's stuck in change.
25:44
Yeah, that's what I mean.
25:45
Let's get...
25:46
No, sorry, it's not correct.
25:48
We don't have to give him a job because we get blackmailed 675 times.
25:52
No, no.
25:53
We don't have to do that.
25:55
You just have to come out of it and tell him.
25:57
It's a fact.
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But at the same time, you're going into something with him,
26:03
so see his response tomorrow about that.
26:07
So what?
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Because it could be a better outcome then.
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It could be an even better outcome.
26:15
Stay friendly about it instead of he just gets upset and takes revenge.
26:20
After he's paid, then you can tell him.
26:24
Yes.
26:24
I mean, if he becomes upset, he takes the business.
26:28
If he's going into something with you.
26:30
He won't be upset.
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He won't be upset.
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And even how much more business he's brought?
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10,000?
26:39
It's that, but the thing is his friends,
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they make about 2,000 to 3,000 pounds a week of profit.
26:45
That's the thing.
26:49
So in that case, 675 is justified if it's a blackmail.
26:53
But yeah, that's not acceptable.
26:55
But if he's going into something with you and it can be handled in a...
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Yeah.
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I said to him, I said to him, for debt pay now.
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Yeah.
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Don't go to that office.
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Yeah, he doesn't have to deal with me.
27:10
You know what I mean.
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But we lost our money.
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Yeah, of course we lost, yeah.
27:17
We lost £675 into his account.
27:21
It's ridiculous.
27:22
It is.
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We should not even pay £2, £1.
27:29
£2, £1.
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That we don't need.
27:33
And people...
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This is the thing, we do need, we do need,
27:38
but he just doesn't do it.
27:39
He just brings a million excuses and complaints.
27:41
So in that case, there's no point.
27:43
Just say temporary.
27:46
Break it down to two days.
27:50
Yeah, I just don't bother.
27:51
I don't really want him to be around anyway.
27:54
Okay, you can finish with him.
27:57
Bring it two days and finish.
27:59
Yeah, or after tomorrow.
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not before we go to the meeting
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no no no
28:03
because what I'm saying
28:05
we don't want to get him wound up
28:07
and then he goes to talk to
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Silbury or whatever
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you know
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because they feel
28:16
this is what I'm saying
28:18
when we organize the company
28:20
then we do
28:22
all that TNT
28:24
everything will be
28:26
written in the company
28:28
letter you have to help me
28:30
to write all those things
28:31
so that we can't do any shit
28:34
like that
28:37
this is the thing
28:39
so tomorrow we go and discuss the contract
28:42
the contract as far as Silbury
28:44
will be concerned
28:44
with DLC
28:48
and we're not going to change that tomorrow
28:51
not now
28:52
but when we pay
28:53
then I'll speak to him
28:55
can you put that in my name
28:56
yeah exactly
28:58
yeah
28:58
and
28:59
now
29:01
All right.
29:04
Okay.
29:05
All right.
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Progress.
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I'll tell ya.
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I hope so.
29:09
I hope so too.
29:11
All right.
29:12
Okay then.
29:13
See ya.
29:13
All right.
29:14
See ya soon.
29:15
All right.
29:15
Bye.
29:15
Bye.