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Hello?
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Hi, I was worried I might be late.
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No, no, I'm just having a walk.
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I had about two and a half hours meeting with Ali.
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Okay, Ali.
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Yeah.
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Oh, Ali, sorry, these are they?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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He's, I think, 90% is prepared to go ahead with me.
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On source?
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Yeah.
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Or cards?
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Okay.
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Not cards.
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I'll put the cards aside.
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Yeah, because honestly, I didn't want to be eroded by it,
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but I think that's a bit of a dead-end cause.
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Yeah, look, I just did that to earn some cash.
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No, no, I understand, and it's got potential to make a little bit of money,
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but it's probably a disproportionate amount of work.
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Yeah, £15,000 and I pick five cards and get £1,000 or £1,500.
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There's so much paperwork involved and so much hassle and phone ringing 10 times a day, most of them wasting time.
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Well, we forgot about it.
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Good, good.
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I need income.
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Yes, yes.
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You know, I need income to live.
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Because it's not that fantastic because it's so much expensive.
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It's everything.
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I know, I know. You don't need to explain.
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Yeah.
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And the same thing that I spoke to you, to look attractive.
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I said for 25 months, you don't pay any expenses, any rent.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You have nothing to do with TLC.
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You just deal with me, that's it.
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Yeah.
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profit there yeah i the the profit comes to you yes but when we order the first container
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the second containers might be needed to be ordered earlier yes you know but the money
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should be there you should get the account from me every two or three months yeah if she buys
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that yeah anything any item yeah from that thing is the cash maybe in case yeah at any time maybe
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cash paid i'll give you a card every two weeks you know what's going on yeah and the stock
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leather everything he's a good person he's he's a very clean honesty nice very nice straightforward
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He's a very nice guy, but the way he is, the morality, attitude.
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Exactly.
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So what is he doing with himself at the moment then?
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He's squeezed out of his family things and he's here.
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His family are here because his wife and kids are here.
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No, I mean his brothers and his father.
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No, his father passed away.
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His father passed away.
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The big brother has a lock on everything.
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Yeah.
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It was frustrating.
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They were losing money.
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So one part of the business was sort of closed.
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You know, the raw material for the farm and for the factory.
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Yeah.
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He said, I just, when they came out of depression, I said, I'm going to run them now.
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Right.
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And he said, I'll do it.
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Okay.
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a lot of assets.
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For example, in the north of
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Tehran, Karaj,
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I talked about
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when they're drinking
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Iranian food, you know, that they
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's all bad
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factories, like
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you see one of them.
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It's my
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mother's tenant.
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And that area
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is loads of
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warehouse they
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have. But they're landlords.
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You know, every time you put
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a name. I mean, the
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petrochemical stuff, a lot of it might have been
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attacked. Yeah, petrochemical
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no, it was attacked,
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but there's still a lot of
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Yeah, still got it, yeah.
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You know, the country's not switched off.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's a massive
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fix-up. It's quick.
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Yeah, good.
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And we're happier
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and
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we're
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All the dealers, all the people who deal with money, they want to deal with them.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah.
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They're quite big.
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I know that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So many things they have there.
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And so many properties they have.
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So many.
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Unbelievable.
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Unbelievable.
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I knew that.
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I met his father.
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I met the other father.
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And I know what they're doing.
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He agreed.
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He was happy with it.
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I'm glad you told me.
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And I told them about that I don't want to do it.
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I told them.
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So they know each other well.
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He's never seen him.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But sometimes...
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think of little things like you owe someone 100 pounds yeah you know what i mean i said and and
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damon told me about five six times he said he said he's a rich guy but 100 pounds can you not afford
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it yeah you know and i had told him about you and i was a bit frustrated and i said i didn't want to
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pay a hundred pounds to exam because i didn't want to get rude you know what i do yes there
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are other things that i don't want to go into better enough so that means that in the end and
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he's uh regardless of what any other connection he's got to damon the picture is already painted
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in his mind about what's going on in his head so regardless of any connection he's had with damon
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before anything he didn't have any connection at all no no so regardless of that he's got a
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picture in his mind now
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You have painted.
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Yeah.
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So that helped.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And not only because of that, he liked the business.
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Yeah.
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Well, after all, he wanted to do that before, didn't he?
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He wanted to do many years ago.
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But I think you were not interested, I remember.
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Yeah.
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Oh, good.
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And I'd say that for 25 months, you don't have to pay rent or anything.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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We'll do that.
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We'll handle it.
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Yeah.
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But after 25 months, there should be some rent or anything, if you can.
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Yeah.
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We'll work it out.
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Yeah.
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And the same permits.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And I will go up and down everywhere to promote that.
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Yeah.
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Then we should be adding other items like drinks and other people.
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And to be honest, I think this...
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sauce could go in price quite low
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for the first...
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Yeah.
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I told them between four and five weeks,
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the first container.
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It can be done in two weeks.
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You know?
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But the sauce
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has to go to every
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cashier, bring the price down,
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and even take
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a little oven in the car.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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And take the sauce and throw it out
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and make it easy
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so I let the cashier carry on
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his customers.
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Exactly, yeah.
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And I'm prepared to do that as well.
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Yeah.
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But he's not said completely
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okay.
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He said to me,
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tomorrow about half an hour
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I have to be physiotherapy,
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but it's a group therapy.
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Right. You know, yeah. And I have to be there. It's a problem for me because I'm suffering. And he's going to phone me. He said he's going to phone me at half nine and tell me what he's going to do. I just don't know. And how he's going to pay.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because yesterday you said to me that he hasn't got that much money after all. Maybe he's not with Ali.
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He hasn't got that much money before. Before he had loads.
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But he's still capable to pay £80,000. I'm not worried about it too much.
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Not £80,000. Containers.
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£40,000. Yeah. OK. OK.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, then potentially another one. Yeah.
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Yeah. Potentially another one.
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But what is my subject with you that.
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to the regional phone
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to report it to you.
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There's one thing
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that
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when we go there,
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someone wants to come.
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Yeah, I know.
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Okay.
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We have to be very
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cautious.
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And we don't
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get in the straight away.
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Yes.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Secondly,
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if we
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didn't have that problem
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of the
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other container
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which is out of date.
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Yeah.
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It would have been
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straightforward.
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Yeah.
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I didn't tell
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Ali about the short date stuff.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That is your stock
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with the supplier.
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and I think I should have told them as well, but I didn't.
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Maybe, but it may be a big deal,
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or it may be not as big a deal as we worried.
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Yeah.
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We don't know.
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So whatever it is, I tell him,
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we tell him that, okay, we accept.
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We pay over, yeah, yeah.
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For that container, but pay you, you know what I mean,
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over a year.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Maybe they agree to go 50-50 on the loss.
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We'll see what he says.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because contractually, we never signed to take that on.
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The contract was ripped off, you know, the old one, so.
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Otherwise, he would have taken us to court.
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Yeah, that's right.
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They've got no way to impose.
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If it's just part of the negotiation.
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Do we have any contract for the new company?
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Oh, well, yes, we do.
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We do.
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We do, and I have a copy of it, and I'll get it out and check it
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before we go there, before we talk next time.
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Yeah, I think it's two containers.
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Yeah, it was two containers contract.
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Yeah.
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But I don't remember the exact wording about the stuff that was already produced.
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Yeah.
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You can have a look at it.
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Don't say anything to Darmod.
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No.
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Yeah, and he's saying no more.
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No, I don't say anything to him.
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I just say to him, always, I say, don't worry, it's in hand.
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It's in hand.
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We're working on it.
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Don't worry about it.
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Yeah.
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And when we go there, we just tell them we have funds behind us.
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Don't worry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask you one more question, please?
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Yeah.
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Did you pay Manu?
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No.
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Well, I can send you £1,200, and I'll pay it.
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Oh.
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Are you in them?
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Oh, there were two of them that had films.
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The guy is 1,200 pounds.
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200 pounds?
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1,200.
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Yeah.
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Did you send that money?
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I'll send it now.
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It's not even a quarter, but I'll send it.
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A quarter?
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1,200?
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1,200.
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How much do you owe him?
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8,000.
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So what are you going to do even tomorrow?
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I'll pay.
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Tomorrow I should receive money.
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I should receive 30,000.
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30?
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Yeah.
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If you can't receive 30,000, just pay him, please.
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Yes, of course.
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We need the cheese.
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Okay.
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30,000 you receive tomorrow.
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I hope so.
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I mean, I should, yes.
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I expect it.
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And then after that, you know, if you're going into that business with Ali and that goes well,
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I think cheese is...
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got quite a big opportunity right now but that's for later yeah because therefore the prices are
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badly from sunderland pre-made picking themselves a whole and there's i think you bring another
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cheap definitely please yeah if you get one or two pallet there's some cheese around it always
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should have been you know that was another thing from before with damon it was like you wanted to
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talk about these uh boxes hps and the craft boxes people use them thinking he keeps he loves this
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hotel business yeah he wants to be rich what happened is for example his friends them twins
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shopping hanzo's prositos and they use cardboard burger boxes and all our customers want hp but they use
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cardboard burger boxes he ordered loads and loads and loads of them and then he realized it's a
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mistake sold them away cheap and but he spent all his time in the first three months every time we
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talk i said what we need is a different cheese we had salesmen come from three cheese companies
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we took it to his shop we ate it oh this one is much better oh but then his friend said i like
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elite better and he said no we better stick with elite because he's guided by he just saw the small
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circle around him but the bigger picture elite is a disaster from the supply side
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yeah you know but they're much better cheeses but then i think if it's successful this
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peter sauce you want him out of course yeah yeah you want him out yeah yeah just doing it
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delicately and it does
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you want him out of course yeah yeah just doing it delicately and it does
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that's been the problem for weeks and even months yeah maybe a third of the business
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yeah maybe a third of the business
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his friends now.
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Yeah.
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You know,
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he's learned something
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and he can see
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some doors
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the whole thing
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and things like that.
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And then
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some money
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has got behind him
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and his wife.
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Yeah, they have money.
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They had money
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three years ago.
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They had money
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five years ago
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and then they lose it
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actually.
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And then, you know,
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they're not as clever
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as they think.
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Now he's opening
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that shop
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and he can do that
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and at the same time
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wants to buy this
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and buy that.
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That shop doesn't,
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that shop he can open
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and that keeps
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7,000 pounds.
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You know,
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it's nothing.
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It's just
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a little bit of
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decoration.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Okay.
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Yeah, so that's
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progress anyway.
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See what he said in the morning.
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Yeah.
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That would be the best thing for the course.
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If you pay that money tomorrow,
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please phone Manu.
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Yeah, we have to, yeah.
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We have to one way or the other, yes.
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We have to.
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I will, yeah.
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Don't have the money.
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Absolutely starved of cash.
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Absolutely starved of cash.
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We're absolutely starved of cash.
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That's the problem.
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Yeah.
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Extremely starved of cash.
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We're fine.
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We're sorted.
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Please organize that money for him tomorrow.
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Yes.
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And phone him to apologize.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We will ask for payment.
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We'll tell him, yeah.
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A couple of guys promised me,
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one guy promised me to bring the money,
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but he didn't.
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We'll do that.
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Yeah.
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Don't worry.
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It's yourself.
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Okay.
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We will have it.
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You do, thank you.
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Yeah, all right.
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All right, thank you.
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Okay, very good.
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See you in the morning.
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Okay, bye.
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Okay, bye.