# Call Recording Transcript - Started: 2026-08-17 15:17:38 - Direction: outbound - Caller: Behnam - Destination: Reza - Duration: 15m 50s - Disposition: ANSWERED ## Transcript - [2026-08-17 15:17:39 - 2026-08-17 15:17:40] **Unknown:** Hello? Hi, sorry. - [2026-08-17 15:17:41 - 2026-08-17 15:17:42] **Behnam:** I was just on the other line. - [2026-08-17 15:17:43 - 2026-08-17 15:17:43] **Unknown:** Sorry. - [2026-08-17 15:17:44 - 2026-08-17 15:17:46] **Behnam:** How are you? I'm alright. - [2026-08-17 15:17:47 - 2026-08-17 15:17:49] **Unknown:** I spoke to you. - [2026-08-17 15:17:51 - 2026-08-17 15:17:51] **Behnam:** Sorry? - [2026-08-17 15:17:52 - 2026-08-17 15:17:54] **Unknown:** I spoke to your assistant today. - [2026-08-17 15:17:55 - 2026-08-17 15:17:56] **Behnam:** Oh, okay, yes, very good. - [2026-08-17 15:17:57 - 2026-08-17 15:17:59] **Unknown:** He told me to call you. - [2026-08-17 15:17:59 - 2026-08-17 15:18:00] **Behnam:** Huh? - [2026-08-17 15:18:00 - 2026-08-17 15:18:02] **Behnam:** He told me to call you. Yeah, is he alright? - [2026-08-17 15:18:03 - 2026-08-17 15:18:04] **Behnam:** He's alright, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:18:04 - 2026-08-17 15:18:06] **Behnam:** He said you tried to reach me and he said - [2026-08-17 15:18:06 - 2026-08-17 15:18:07] **Behnam:** you were going back, but - [2026-08-17 15:18:07 - 2026-08-17 15:18:09] **Unknown:** he hasn't got - [2026-08-17 15:18:09 - 2026-08-17 15:18:11] **Unknown:** a call today already. - [2026-08-17 15:18:12 - 2026-08-17 15:18:13] **Unknown:** He never gets a call. - [2026-08-17 15:18:13 - 2026-08-17 15:18:14] **Unknown:** Alright. - [2026-08-17 15:18:16 - 2026-08-17 15:18:17] **Behnam:** He can do a lot, you know. - [2026-08-17 15:18:17 - 2026-08-17 15:18:18] **Behnam:** He can do a lot. - [2026-08-17 15:18:19 - 2026-08-17 15:18:21] **Behnam:** Yeah, he can do a lot of things. - [2026-08-17 15:18:22 - 2026-08-17 15:18:23] **Behnam:** He can talk to me about a lot of things. - [2026-08-17 15:18:23 - 2026-08-17 15:18:25] **Behnam:** He can ask me about my calendar, - [2026-08-17 15:18:26 - 2026-08-17 15:18:28] **Behnam:** what things I need to do. - [2026-08-17 15:18:28 - 2026-08-17 15:18:30] **Behnam:** He knows if I'm expecting a call. - [2026-08-17 15:18:30 - 2026-08-17 15:18:32] **Behnam:** And he can phone people for me - [2026-08-17 15:18:32 - 2026-08-17 15:18:33] **Behnam:** if I want to order - [2026-08-17 15:18:34 - 2026-08-17 15:18:35] **Behnam:** lunch. - [2026-08-17 15:18:35 - 2026-08-17 15:18:37] **Behnam:** He phones the pizzeria. - [2026-08-17 15:18:38 - 2026-08-17 15:18:43] **Unknown:** places the order and then he does give me a message it'll be ready in 10 minutes you can - [2026-08-17 15:18:43 - 2026-08-17 15:18:49] **Unknown:** pick it up or the delivery or whatever and the price everything you go to show me yeah - [2026-08-17 15:18:49 - 2026-08-17 15:18:58] **Reza:** yeah have you got any friend to work for me you can do yeah if you want i can definitely set that - [2026-08-17 15:18:58 - 2026-08-17 15:19:04] **Unknown:** up yeah all right thanks yeah you can speak every language next time try talking to him in turkish - [2026-08-17 15:19:04 - 2026-08-17 15:19:14] **Reza:** or farsi or something yeah you can do it as well good for me yeah he said when i get to a person - [2026-08-17 15:19:15 - 2026-08-17 15:19:23] **Reza:** he's continuously in his mind yes it is yeah yeah and i said there's a he said okay then yeah he - [2026-08-17 15:19:23 - 2026-08-17 15:19:32] **Behnam:** said are you coming to tlc i said i may do yeah muhammad is not answering my telephone right - [2026-08-17 15:19:32 - 2026-08-17 15:19:34] **Reza:** i think he may be - [2026-08-17 15:19:34 - 2026-08-17 15:19:34] **Unknown:** yeah - [2026-08-17 15:19:34 - 2026-08-17 15:19:36] **Unknown:** a bit more like retired you know - [2026-08-17 15:19:38 - 2026-08-17 15:19:44] **Reza:** I don't know. I've got an appointment tomorrow at 11 o'clock in Leeds. - [2026-08-17 15:19:44 - 2026-08-17 15:19:46] **Reza:** I spoke to Manon. - [2026-08-17 15:19:48 - 2026-08-17 15:19:53] **Reza:** I just said, while I was talking, I said, have you spoken to Tomo? - [2026-08-17 15:19:54 - 2026-08-17 15:19:55] **Reza:** He said, no, what's happening there? - [2026-08-17 15:19:56 - 2026-08-17 15:20:01] **Behnam:** Tomo is a nice lad, you know what I mean? Nice kid. - [2026-08-17 15:20:02 - 2026-08-17 15:20:10] **Behnam:** I made an appointment with him tomorrow to talk to him. - [2026-08-17 15:20:11 - 2026-08-17 15:20:14] **Reza:** And he said, what's happening with the chiefs? - [2026-08-17 15:20:15 - 2026-08-17 15:20:18] **Reza:** They're not answering even the telephone. - [2026-08-17 15:20:19 - 2026-08-17 15:20:22] **Unknown:** I don't know about that. I'm not in the office. - [2026-08-17 15:20:23 - 2026-08-17 15:20:27] **Unknown:** But yeah, we have to pay him for the last week's chief as soon as possible. - [2026-08-17 15:20:27 - 2026-08-17 15:20:30] **Unknown:** I'll try to do that before you go there. - [2026-08-17 15:20:31 - 2026-08-17 15:20:34] **Behnam:** Yeah, we'll do that before I go. - [2026-08-17 15:20:39 - 2026-08-17 15:20:42] **Reza:** I'm going to go to TLC, just see what Tom says. - [2026-08-17 15:20:43 - 2026-08-17 15:20:44] **Reza:** Find out. - [2026-08-17 15:20:44 - 2026-08-17 15:20:51] **Reza:** You know, I might have to say, I don't think this is fair. - [2026-08-17 15:20:52 - 2026-08-17 15:20:55] **Behnam:** Well, see first after you had the appointment with Manu. - [2026-08-17 15:20:55 - 2026-08-17 15:20:57] **Behnam:** You know, do that first. - [2026-08-17 15:20:58 - 2026-08-17 15:21:01] **Reza:** Yeah, I don't think he's spoken to Manu. - [2026-08-17 15:21:01 - 2026-08-17 15:21:03] **Behnam:** No, he hasn't, but he spoke to Navid. - [2026-08-17 15:21:04 - 2026-08-17 15:21:05] **Reza:** Muhammad, yes. - [2026-08-17 15:21:06 - 2026-08-17 15:21:08] **Behnam:** No, Navid in Delacorte. - [2026-08-17 15:21:08 - 2026-08-17 15:21:09] **Reza:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:21:10 - 2026-08-17 15:21:15] **Behnam:** Because Manu looks very old, and Navid does all the thinking and decisions. - [2026-08-17 15:21:15 - 2026-08-17 15:21:16] **Behnam:** It's like... - [2026-08-17 15:21:16 - 2026-08-17 15:21:20] **Reza:** Manu's in Delacorte, he's in class. - [2026-08-17 15:21:21 - 2026-08-17 15:21:22] **Unknown:** He's broke his ribs. - [2026-08-17 15:21:22 - 2026-08-17 15:21:23] **Reza:** His leg. - [2026-08-17 15:21:24 - 2026-08-17 15:21:25] **Unknown:** A leg? Oh my God. - [2026-08-17 15:21:26 - 2026-08-17 15:21:26] **Behnam:** How? - [2026-08-17 15:21:26 - 2026-08-17 15:21:28] **Unknown:** I don't know. - [2026-08-17 15:21:28 - 2026-08-17 15:21:30] **Reza:** I don't know, I didn't ask him. - [2026-08-17 15:21:31 - 2026-08-17 15:21:31] **Unknown:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:21:34 - 2026-08-17 15:21:35] **Reza:** Yeah, that was it. - [2026-08-17 15:21:35 - 2026-08-17 15:21:37] **Reza:** So I'm going to go to TLC. - [2026-08-17 15:21:38 - 2026-08-17 15:21:45] **Behnam:** see what he said yeah because you have to sort this out before the meeting yeah of course yeah - [2026-08-17 15:21:45 - 2026-08-17 15:21:52] **Reza:** you know not of course you know yeah he just talks too much i know i know - [2026-08-17 15:21:54 - 2026-08-17 15:21:58] **Unknown:** some of it is his style you know you're right but some of it is just the style - [2026-08-17 15:21:58 - 2026-08-17 15:22:04] **Unknown:** he does that then for one hour he talks about concrete then for one hour he talks about pizza - [2026-08-17 15:22:04 - 2026-08-17 15:22:09] **Unknown:** boxes and then for one hour again the sauce comes back but it's too many ideas and no but - [2026-08-17 15:22:09 - 2026-08-17 15:22:17] **Reza:** this one what he is doing he obviously that he got support from his wife and his plan yeah yeah - [2026-08-17 15:22:17 - 2026-08-17 15:22:27] **Unknown:** but that's not that for for him it's only one of the things in the plan yes you're right you're - [2026-08-17 15:22:27 - 2026-08-17 15:22:32] **Unknown:** right but he's not uh only about pizza sauce maybe he's bringing that up with you because - [2026-08-17 15:22:32 - 2026-08-17 15:22:33] **Unknown:** he sees you as the pastor - [2026-08-17 15:22:34 - 2026-08-17 15:22:35] **Unknown:** the guy is silvery - [2026-08-17 15:22:38 - 2026-08-17 15:22:39] **Behnam:** He's also doing that with the boxes. - [2026-08-17 15:22:39 - 2026-08-17 15:22:43] **Behnam:** People come to show pizza boxes and he's talking, - [2026-08-17 15:22:43 - 2026-08-17 15:22:44] **Behnam:** can you make it like this? - [2026-08-17 15:22:44 - 2026-08-17 15:22:45] **Behnam:** Can you make it like that? - [2026-08-17 15:22:45 - 2026-08-17 15:22:47] **Behnam:** He's got other, clearly he's got other ideas. - [2026-08-17 15:22:47 - 2026-08-17 15:22:52] **Behnam:** He's just always got too many different directions of looking. - [2026-08-17 15:22:52 - 2026-08-17 15:22:55] **Unknown:** That's your intention and everything. - [2026-08-17 15:22:56 - 2026-08-17 15:22:56] **Behnam:** Yes, yes. - [2026-08-17 15:22:56 - 2026-08-17 15:23:00] **Behnam:** And I don't think it's entirely bad intention, entirely. - [2026-08-17 15:23:00 - 2026-08-17 15:23:03] **Behnam:** But if he sees opportunity for himself, - [2026-08-17 15:23:03 - 2026-08-17 15:23:05] **Behnam:** anybody else's expense, he will take it. - [2026-08-17 15:23:05 - 2026-08-17 15:23:08] **Unknown:** Like, yeah, he wants to kick us out of that, - [2026-08-17 15:23:09 - 2026-08-17 15:23:11] **Unknown:** kick us out of the pizza night shows. - [2026-08-17 15:23:11 - 2026-08-17 15:23:12] **Behnam:** Yes, he does, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:23:12 - 2026-08-17 15:23:14] **Unknown:** He wants to own it. - [2026-08-17 15:23:14 - 2026-08-17 15:23:17] **Unknown:** He said to open a company. - [2026-08-17 15:23:18 - 2026-08-17 15:23:18] **Behnam:** Yes. - [2026-08-17 15:23:18 - 2026-08-17 15:23:19] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:23:19 - 2026-08-17 15:23:21] **Behnam:** He said that as well to me and Sarah, - [2026-08-17 15:23:22 - 2026-08-17 15:23:25] **Behnam:** the idea being that the money comes from the other cash and carries - [2026-08-17 15:23:26 - 2026-08-17 15:23:28] **Behnam:** and they'll be partners with it. - [2026-08-17 15:23:28 - 2026-08-17 15:23:30] **Behnam:** But yeah, he wants to put his name in it, - [2026-08-17 15:23:30 - 2026-08-17 15:23:31] **Behnam:** which doesn't make any sense. - [2026-08-17 15:23:31 - 2026-08-17 15:23:32] **Behnam:** It's completely unfair. - [2026-08-17 15:23:32 - 2026-08-17 15:23:34] **Unknown:** Yeah, but not your name, not TRC name. - [2026-08-17 15:23:34 - 2026-08-17 15:23:35] **Behnam:** No. - [2026-08-17 15:23:35 - 2026-08-17 15:23:36] **Behnam:** Well, one of them, yes, exactly. - [2026-08-17 15:23:38 - 2026-08-17 15:23:38] **Reza:** Exactly. - [2026-08-17 15:23:38 - 2026-08-17 15:23:39] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:23:39 - 2026-08-17 15:23:40] **Behnam:** He's got that intention, yes. - [2026-08-17 15:23:40 - 2026-08-17 15:23:42] **Reza:** Yeah, he's got that intention. - [2026-08-17 15:23:42 - 2026-08-17 15:23:43] **Reza:** That's an evil intention. - [2026-08-17 15:23:44 - 2026-08-17 15:23:45] **Reza:** That's below the belt. - [2026-08-17 15:23:45 - 2026-08-17 15:23:46] **Behnam:** It is. - [2026-08-17 15:23:46 - 2026-08-17 15:23:46] **Reza:** It's horrible. - [2026-08-17 15:23:46 - 2026-08-17 15:23:47] **Behnam:** It is. - [2026-08-17 15:23:47 - 2026-08-17 15:23:48] **Reza:** I hate that. - [2026-08-17 15:23:48 - 2026-08-17 15:23:49] **Reza:** I know. - [2026-08-17 15:23:49 - 2026-08-17 15:23:50] **Behnam:** I know. - [2026-08-17 15:23:50 - 2026-08-17 15:23:50] **Behnam:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:23:51 - 2026-08-17 15:23:52] **Behnam:** I know. - [2026-08-17 15:23:52 - 2026-08-17 15:23:52] **Reza:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:23:54 - 2026-08-17 15:23:57] **Reza:** One question that I want to ask you. - [2026-08-17 15:23:59 - 2026-08-17 15:24:03] **Reza:** A while ago, before he takes his money back. - [2026-08-17 15:24:03 - 2026-08-17 15:24:04] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:24:04 - 2026-08-17 15:24:09] **Reza:** He said to me, you were taking wages from there, and he didn't know, and you hadn't - [2026-08-17 15:24:09 - 2026-08-17 15:24:10] **Reza:** told him. - [2026-08-17 15:24:10 - 2026-08-17 15:24:13] **Behnam:** No, he knew, because he had the bank account. - [2026-08-17 15:24:14 - 2026-08-17 15:24:17] **Behnam:** He had the bank account, and he and I were both getting the same thing. - [2026-08-17 15:24:18 - 2026-08-17 15:24:19] **Behnam:** The same thing. - [2026-08-17 15:24:19 - 2026-08-17 15:24:25] **Behnam:** We had clash about, from the beginning, or from early on, he once talked to his Pakistani - [2026-08-17 15:24:25 - 2026-08-17 15:24:31] **Behnam:** accountant in Abu Dhabi Road, and he said the payroll should be with the accountant. - [2026-08-17 15:24:32 - 2026-08-17 15:24:33] **Behnam:** Sorry, I didn't understand. - [2026-08-17 15:24:34 - 2026-08-17 15:24:35] **Reza:** What about Abu Dhabi Road? - [2026-08-17 15:24:36 - 2026-08-17 15:24:37] **Behnam:** He has a Pakistani accountant. - [2026-08-17 15:24:38 - 2026-08-17 15:24:42] **Behnam:** And the accountant on Abbeydale Road did his VAT, did his wages, everything. - [2026-08-17 15:24:42 - 2026-08-17 15:24:47] **Behnam:** He didn't understand how even exactly how does VAT work, how does wages work. - [2026-08-17 15:24:48 - 2026-08-17 15:24:50] **Behnam:** He just relies on the accountant. - [2026-08-17 15:24:50 - 2026-08-17 15:24:53] **Behnam:** And he said, oh, I want to get him to do it. - [2026-08-17 15:24:53 - 2026-08-17 15:24:59] **Behnam:** And the accountant wants to charge £100 a month for payroll, things that's not necessary. - [2026-08-17 15:25:01 - 2026-08-17 15:25:05] **Behnam:** And he started to, I don't know, suspicious, I think it was from his wife, - [2026-08-17 15:25:05 - 2026-08-17 15:25:10] **Behnam:** you know, explaining to me and Sarah, well, no, there's no need to have the accountant do that. - [2026-08-17 15:25:10 - 2026-08-17 15:25:15] **Behnam:** And then only then they're working out, okay, everything is clear, exposed, - [2026-08-17 15:25:15 - 2026-08-17 15:25:17] **Behnam:** but he doesn't understand it because he never did it. - [2026-08-17 15:25:18 - 2026-08-17 15:25:24] **Behnam:** And taking all the papers to the accountant with me, a couple of times, - [2026-08-17 15:25:24 - 2026-08-17 15:25:27] **Behnam:** one time for a couple of hours with his accountant, - [2026-08-17 15:25:27 - 2026-08-17 15:25:31] **Behnam:** his accountant looked through it all about the VAT and about the payroll, - [2026-08-17 15:25:31 - 2026-08-17 15:25:34] **Behnam:** and he said, no, that's all correct, that's fine. - [2026-08-17 15:25:35 - 2026-08-17 15:25:37] **Behnam:** There's nothing wrong, you can do it yourself because... - [2026-08-17 15:25:38 - 2026-08-17 15:25:41] **Behnam:** Even the accountant didn't want to do it because it's weekly or monthly. - [2026-08-17 15:25:41 - 2026-08-17 15:25:47] **Behnam:** And he always felt like everything has to go to his accountant. - [2026-08-17 15:25:48 - 2026-08-17 15:25:54] **Behnam:** My point is, my question is, you were taking £600, he said, wages. - [2026-08-17 15:25:55 - 2026-08-17 15:25:58] **Behnam:** And he was taking £400 at his request. - [2026-08-17 15:25:59 - 2026-08-17 15:26:00] **Behnam:** He said, leave it like that. - [2026-08-17 15:26:00 - 2026-08-17 15:26:06] **Behnam:** We weren't calling it wages, we were calling it as repayment from the investments that we'd made. - [2026-08-17 15:26:08 - 2026-08-17 15:26:14] **Behnam:** And when I was doing that, my investment was much more than his. - [2026-08-17 15:26:14 - 2026-08-17 15:26:20] **Behnam:** How much did you put in this house? - [2026-08-17 15:26:20 - 2026-08-17 15:26:25] **Behnam:** When did he take all the money? - [2026-08-17 15:26:25 - 2026-08-17 15:26:28] **Behnam:** I don't know, last summer, last autumn? - [2026-08-17 15:26:28 - 2026-08-17 15:26:30] **Behnam:** No, no, finished in January. - [2026-08-17 15:26:30 - 2026-08-17 15:26:31] **Behnam:** Finished in January. - [2026-08-17 15:26:31 - 2026-08-17 15:26:33] **Behnam:** Started in autumn, finished in January. - [2026-08-17 15:26:35 - 2026-08-17 15:26:37] **Unknown:** And he always... - [2026-08-17 15:26:38 - 2026-08-17 15:26:40] **Behnam:** It was made obvious what is going on. - [2026-08-17 15:26:40 - 2026-08-17 15:26:45] **Behnam:** It's because he put in from the beginning about $50,000 to $70,000. - [2026-08-17 15:26:46 - 2026-08-17 15:26:50] **Behnam:** $50,000, $70,000, but then he didn't pay for the shopping from his shop. - [2026-08-17 15:26:50 - 2026-08-17 15:26:54] **Behnam:** It was much more than the money that I was taking. - [2026-08-17 15:26:54 - 2026-08-17 15:26:56] **Behnam:** His shopping was much more. - [2026-08-17 15:26:56 - 2026-08-17 15:26:59] **Unknown:** And I struggled to put money. - [2026-08-17 15:26:59 - 2026-08-17 15:27:01] **Unknown:** I put $30,000, $40,000, $50,000. - [2026-08-17 15:27:01 - 2026-08-17 15:27:06] **Unknown:** Within about four months, I'd overtaken him a lot by how much I put in. - [2026-08-17 15:27:06 - 2026-08-17 15:27:07] **Unknown:** A lot. - [2026-08-17 15:27:08 - 2026-08-17 15:27:12] **Behnam:** And he saw this shop, and then he starts telling me, - [2026-08-17 15:27:12 - 2026-08-17 15:27:14] **Behnam:** I want to buy, we want to buy this one. - [2026-08-17 15:27:14 - 2026-08-17 15:27:16] **Behnam:** I want to buy a container of this, a container of that. - [2026-08-17 15:27:17 - 2026-08-17 15:27:19] **Behnam:** Good ideas, but it needs a lot more money. - [2026-08-17 15:27:19 - 2026-08-17 15:27:22] **Behnam:** And he says to me, can't you borrow against your house? - [2026-08-17 15:27:22 - 2026-08-17 15:27:24] **Behnam:** Can you ask your family to give you more money? - [2026-08-17 15:27:24 - 2026-08-17 15:27:26] **Behnam:** Expecting me to put in more. - [2026-08-17 15:27:26 - 2026-08-17 15:27:29] **Behnam:** And he says, because I'm doing other business as well, - [2026-08-17 15:27:29 - 2026-08-17 15:27:33] **Behnam:** I'm trying to have some other shop and things like that. - [2026-08-17 15:27:33 - 2026-08-17 15:27:37] **Behnam:** And I said, no, I cannot invest the money. - [2026-08-17 15:27:37 - 2026-08-17 15:27:37] **Behnam:** And he said, no, I cannot. - [2026-08-17 15:27:38 - 2026-08-17 15:27:42] **Behnam:** He wants me to raise money from family and from my house, - [2026-08-17 15:27:43 - 2026-08-17 15:27:46] **Behnam:** and then he wants to have half the benefit of it. - [2026-08-17 15:27:49 - 2026-08-17 15:27:53] **Behnam:** So we separated it, paid him over three months, - [2026-08-17 15:27:54 - 2026-08-17 15:27:56] **Behnam:** and he's just since then an employee. - [2026-08-17 15:27:57 - 2026-08-17 15:28:02] **Behnam:** But his job's supposed to be all commercial things, - [2026-08-17 15:28:02 - 2026-08-17 15:28:05] **Behnam:** the customers, suppliers, all those people who come in - [2026-08-17 15:28:05 - 2026-08-17 15:28:07] **Behnam:** and want to talk for ages and things like that. - [2026-08-17 15:28:08 - 2026-08-17 15:28:09] **Behnam:** He doesn't do any of that. - [2026-08-17 15:28:09 - 2026-08-17 15:28:15] **Behnam:** Just always, I want to get a few pallets of this and a few pallets of that, - [2026-08-17 15:28:15 - 2026-08-17 15:28:19] **Behnam:** but you're not buying it, and I can't because I spend all the money. - [2026-08-17 15:28:20 - 2026-08-17 15:28:23] **Behnam:** And when he was getting his repayment, - [2026-08-17 15:28:24 - 2026-08-17 15:28:28] **Behnam:** from when we agreed, he was not crazy, very, very, - [2026-08-17 15:28:28 - 2026-08-17 15:28:30] **Behnam:** oh, when am I going to have that? - [2026-08-17 15:28:30 - 2026-08-17 15:28:31] **Behnam:** When am I going to have this? - [2026-08-17 15:28:31 - 2026-08-17 15:28:32] **Behnam:** When am I going to have that? - [2026-08-17 15:28:33 - 2026-08-17 15:28:37] **Behnam:** He could see that the business needs cash to keep, - [2026-08-17 15:28:37 - 2026-08-17 15:28:37] **Behnam:** and he'd be like, - [2026-08-17 15:28:38 - 2026-08-17 15:28:45] **Behnam:** rolling over but we wanted it as fast as possible we agreed over 500 pounds a week and so on and uh - [2026-08-17 15:28:46 - 2026-08-17 15:28:52] **Behnam:** he said he's doubtful if he can get it because the company's cash flow is not amazing never could be - [2026-08-17 15:28:53 - 2026-08-17 15:29:00] **Behnam:** amazing at that point and he goes to the customers who he's befriended everybody talking to everybody - [2026-08-17 15:29:00 - 2026-08-17 15:29:04] **Behnam:** finding out everybody's business how they're making money what they're doing and he says to - [2026-08-17 15:29:04 - 2026-08-17 15:29:11] **Behnam:** them don't pay your bill to tlc pay to me so he could ensure he got his money even in the morning - [2026-08-17 15:29:11 - 2026-08-17 15:29:16] **Behnam:** we should have that money the customers are not paying we should have the money in the company - [2026-08-17 15:29:16 - 2026-08-17 15:29:22] **Behnam:** and he can get paid at the end of the day you can make pay our bills but no because he's diverting - [2026-08-17 15:29:22 - 2026-08-17 15:29:28] **Behnam:** the money to himself you know and after that i revoked his power to make payments and everything - [2026-08-17 15:29:28 - 2026-08-17 15:29:36] **Behnam:** from the bank still ostensibly his position now is supposed to be like salesman and he's - [2026-08-17 15:29:36 - 2026-08-17 15:29:37] **Behnam:** his situation is - [2026-08-17 15:29:38 - 2026-08-17 15:29:42] **Behnam:** He says, well, I cannot do anything because you don't want to buy lots of stuff. - [2026-08-17 15:29:42 - 2026-08-17 15:29:43] **Unknown:** You don't have the stock to sell. - [2026-08-17 15:29:44 - 2026-08-17 15:29:45] **Behnam:** Exactly. - [2026-08-17 15:29:47 - 2026-08-17 15:29:51] **Behnam:** But there was a point where there was £200,000 equity there. - [2026-08-17 15:29:52 - 2026-08-17 15:29:53] **Behnam:** But he wanted it back. - [2026-08-17 15:29:53 - 2026-08-17 15:29:57] **Behnam:** And he still wants to earn himself something here and there. - [2026-08-17 15:29:57 - 2026-08-17 15:29:59] **Unknown:** And he drops back everything, doesn't he? - [2026-08-17 15:30:00 - 2026-08-17 15:30:01] **Behnam:** More than everything, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:30:02 - 2026-08-17 15:30:03] **Behnam:** Plus what would be his salary. - [2026-08-17 15:30:03 - 2026-08-17 15:30:05] **Behnam:** Yeah, he's done very well already. - [2026-08-17 15:30:05 - 2026-08-17 15:30:07] **Behnam:** More than very well. - [2026-08-17 15:30:07 - 2026-08-17 15:30:09] **Behnam:** So he's not hard done by. - [2026-08-17 15:30:10 - 2026-08-17 15:30:11] **Behnam:** Yeah, he's got nothing to... - [2026-08-17 15:30:11 - 2026-08-17 15:30:18] **Behnam:** Of course he will complain, but he's got nothing to actually concrete to mourn about. - [2026-08-17 15:30:18 - 2026-08-17 15:30:19] **Behnam:** Because he's done very well. - [2026-08-17 15:30:22 - 2026-08-17 15:30:31] **Unknown:** So if he complains, what you said to me, you know, - [2026-08-17 15:30:32 - 2026-08-17 15:30:35] **Unknown:** we can tell him and say we call it a day. - [2026-08-17 15:30:35 - 2026-08-17 15:30:36] **Behnam:** Thank you. - [2026-08-17 15:30:36 - 2026-08-17 15:30:36] **Behnam:** Yeah, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:30:36 - 2026-08-17 15:30:37] **Behnam:** I think sooner or later. - [2026-08-17 15:30:38 - 2026-08-17 15:30:43] **Behnam:** I mean, this is my intention, but let's deal with the source first in a careful way. - [2026-08-17 15:30:44 - 2026-08-17 15:30:46] **Reza:** We have a big problem with the source. - [2026-08-17 15:30:46 - 2026-08-17 15:30:50] **Reza:** The source is one container in three months short term. - [2026-08-17 15:30:51 - 2026-08-17 15:30:51] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:30:51 - 2026-08-17 15:30:52] **Reza:** Number one. - [2026-08-17 15:30:54 - 2026-08-17 15:30:57] **Behnam:** Two, he's coming to that meeting. - [2026-08-17 15:30:57 - 2026-08-17 15:30:58] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:30:58 - 2026-08-17 15:31:04] **Reza:** In that meeting, we should look united. - [2026-08-17 15:31:05 - 2026-08-17 15:31:06] **Behnam:** Absolutely. - [2026-08-17 15:31:07 - 2026-08-17 15:31:07] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:31:08 - 2026-08-17 15:31:12] **Reza:** So I don't want to say anything to him before that meeting. - [2026-08-17 15:31:12 - 2026-08-17 15:31:13] **Behnam:** No, that's what I'm saying. - [2026-08-17 15:31:13 - 2026-08-17 15:31:14] **Behnam:** Don't do that yet. - [2026-08-17 15:31:15 - 2026-08-17 15:31:22] **Behnam:** But we need to shore up the position and understand the alliances that exist with the other cash and carries, - [2026-08-17 15:31:22 - 2026-08-17 15:31:24] **Behnam:** because he's the one who has been doing all the talking to them. - [2026-08-17 15:31:24 - 2026-08-17 15:31:25] **Reza:** Yeah, it's only Mohammed. - [2026-08-17 15:31:27 - 2026-08-17 15:31:29] **Behnam:** Yeah, but my point is, it's not Mohammed. - [2026-08-17 15:31:30 - 2026-08-17 15:31:34] **Behnam:** I'm not even sure how much Mohammed is involved, because it's not Mohammed, it's his son. - [2026-08-17 15:31:34 - 2026-08-17 15:31:35] **Reza:** Probably his son. - [2026-08-17 15:31:35 - 2026-08-17 15:31:35] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:31:36 - 2026-08-17 15:31:37] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:31:38 - 2026-08-17 15:31:39] **Behnam:** He can't reach Muhammad himself. - [2026-08-17 15:31:39 - 2026-08-17 15:31:41] **Reza:** That's why I'm seeing Akbar - [2026-08-17 15:31:44 - 2026-08-17 15:31:48] **Reza:** to tell me about Muhammad's business. - [2026-08-17 15:31:48 - 2026-08-17 15:31:50] **Reza:** And if he's not answering me, - [2026-08-17 15:31:51 - 2026-08-17 15:31:53] **Reza:** I'll make Akbar to call him. - [2026-08-17 15:31:53 - 2026-08-17 15:31:54] **Behnam:** Yeah, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:31:54 - 2026-08-17 15:31:57] **Behnam:** Because Muhammad is very retired. - [2026-08-17 15:31:57 - 2026-08-17 15:31:58] **Behnam:** Manoah, no. - [2026-08-17 15:31:58 - 2026-08-17 15:32:00] **Behnam:** I think that Muhammad is very much - [2026-08-17 15:32:03 - 2026-08-17 15:32:06] **Behnam:** retired from worrying about all that kind of thing. - [2026-08-17 15:32:07 - 2026-08-17 15:32:08] **Behnam:** Because if you can't reach him, - [2026-08-17 15:32:08 - 2026-08-17 15:32:10] **Behnam:** and Damoun definitely is not speaking to Muhammad. - [2026-08-17 15:32:11 - 2026-08-17 15:32:13] **Reza:** When I spoke, when I went there, - [2026-08-17 15:32:13 - 2026-08-17 15:32:16] **Reza:** he was telling me what to do, - [2026-08-17 15:32:16 - 2026-08-17 15:32:17] **Reza:** and he said, okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:17 - 2026-08-17 15:32:18] **Behnam:** Maybe, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:32:18 - 2026-08-17 15:32:19] **Behnam:** Yeah, yeah, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:32:19 - 2026-08-17 15:32:20] **Behnam:** But I don't think that Damoun - [2026-08-17 15:32:20 - 2026-08-17 15:32:21] **Behnam:** has spoken to Muhammad either. - [2026-08-17 15:32:21 - 2026-08-17 15:32:23] **Behnam:** So if you can get direct to Muhammad, - [2026-08-17 15:32:23 - 2026-08-17 15:32:24] **Behnam:** that's the best way. - [2026-08-17 15:32:24 - 2026-08-17 15:32:25] **Behnam:** Yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:32:27 - 2026-08-17 15:32:29] **Reza:** I'm seeing Manoah so that he can phone - [2026-08-17 15:32:30 - 2026-08-17 15:32:32] **Reza:** in front of me to Muhammad. - [2026-08-17 15:32:33 - 2026-08-17 15:32:33] **Reza:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:34 - 2026-08-17 15:32:34] **Behnam:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:35 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36] **Reza:** Good for him. - [2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36] **Behnam:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:36] **Behnam:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:36 - 2026-08-17 15:32:37] **Behnam:** Okay. - [2026-08-17 15:32:38 - 2026-08-17 15:32:38] **Behnam:** and we'll see how that goes. - [2026-08-17 15:32:39 - 2026-08-17 15:32:40] **Unknown:** Are you going home today? - [2026-08-17 15:32:40 - 2026-08-17 15:32:42] **Behnam:** Yeah, of course, but not yet. - [2026-08-17 15:32:45 - 2026-08-17 15:32:46] **Unknown:** I'm not there. - [2026-08-17 15:32:46 - 2026-08-17 15:32:49] **Behnam:** Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's all evening, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:32:49 - 2026-08-17 15:32:50] **Behnam:** Yeah, I'll come round. - [2026-08-17 15:32:51 - 2026-08-17 15:32:52] **Behnam:** I'll come round. - [2026-08-17 15:32:52 - 2026-08-17 15:32:54] **Behnam:** Okay, then, okay, thank you. - [2026-08-17 15:32:54 - 2026-08-17 15:32:57] **Unknown:** I'm going to ask you to see him. - [2026-08-17 15:32:58 - 2026-08-17 15:32:59] **Unknown:** Yeah, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:33:00 - 2026-08-17 15:33:02] **Unknown:** And I'll just listen to him, that's all. - [2026-08-17 15:33:02 - 2026-08-17 15:33:03] **Behnam:** Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:33:03 - 2026-08-17 15:33:05] **Behnam:** If you can record it, it's even better, - [2026-08-17 15:33:05 - 2026-08-17 15:33:07] **Behnam:** but it's not easy to do it. - [2026-08-17 15:33:10 - 2026-08-17 15:33:14] **Behnam:** Uh, because we'd better analyse it afterwards, you know. - [2026-08-17 15:33:15 - 2026-08-17 15:33:15] **Behnam:** Yes. - [2026-08-17 15:33:16 - 2026-08-17 15:33:17] **Behnam:** Never mind, anyway, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:33:18 - 2026-08-17 15:33:21] **Unknown:** Okay, then, I don't know how to record it, to be honest. - [2026-08-17 15:33:21 - 2026-08-17 15:33:25] **Behnam:** No, I'll sort that with you later, we'll do something, yeah. - [2026-08-17 15:33:25 - 2026-08-17 15:33:28] **Behnam:** Okay, for future, okay, bye-bye.